[Warcats]

To take needed parking for the Sharon and other events and shows seems a problem. Developers too often rape the land and leave their droppings behind.

[vintageogauge]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Parking was explained in today’s Daily Sun.

The sky is not really falling…………..

Right, and it won't fall. The square will be as good as, if not better than it is right now for years to come, they are not going to give up all those tenants around the square, they quoted that some of the events held there bring in 10,000 heads and the cruise-in's 2,000 heads, that's a lot. I feel that they realize times are changing and want to keep up with it. They did note that 80% of the Loft residents moved there from homes within TV so there is a demand for them and they will probably build them slowly to see how they go. I wouldn't doubt that the first 7 are already spoken for.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

According to the Daily Sun article:

We have a big commitment there and continue to commit more and more resources to maintaining and improving it.

That sounds like spin, not fact. If it was fact, they would've either completed the renovations of the Rialto and it'd be open for business by now, or they'd be proudly announcing the plans for its future by now. Instead, we get radio silence and vague meaningless statements like in the above.

Then, there's the paragraph where they compare the 7 apartment units to the Lofts of Brownwood. The Lofts are a few dozen apartments in a single building, with its own dedicated, gated parking lot and its own dedicated swimming pool and lobby. It also has garage space available exclusively for their use, their own pet lawn, a dedicated spot for barbequing outside. Compare with 7 units over a storefront with no pool, no gated entry to the property, no garages, no pet lawn, no outdoor cooking area, no lobby or dedicated recreational area, but those 7 units will be mostly isolated away from the entire rest of the Villages at 11PM until 9 the next morning.

What WOULD enhance the Square area - is if they took the MVP gym and moved it to the Rialto property, and added maybe a juice bar and other "healthy options" small eatery (since it's a gym, that'd fit) and maybe even a nook with health-related products and services, like vitamins/supplements, kenisiology tape, massage therapy, acupressure and similar services.

And then take that MVP building that was -originally- supposed to be a hotel, and turn THAT into an apartment building. With a couple of rec center amenities (a billiards room, a meeting room with kitchen, a card room) on the second floor over an indoor pool, a concierge, and an elevator. Parking can be in the back, which has its own circular driveway and entrance to the building already.

[Babubhat]

Spanish Springs is obsolete. Everything you need is on 27. Not a big deal

[tophcfa]

Apartments very well might not be trying to kill Spanish Springs, but they will certainly not make it any easier to get one of the three lanes, which are already usually full, for amenity fee paying residents to use to swim laps at the La Hacienda sports pool.

[njbchbum]

Save the Spanish Springs Town Square!

Save Spanish Springs | from The Villages

[jricci13]

I heard about the apartments being built, taking away the parking away Spanish Springs…
We are being over abused by people from outside communities such as Stone Crest, Recreation Plantation , Hilltop Estates and all the others that are getting through with their golf carts and already taking up our spaces, using all of the recreation with guest passes from someone that lives in the villages, and using all the tee-times on our monthly CDD FEES… and now we’re going to have tenants that we retrieve no income from that are gonna be taking the remaining few parking spaces that are left in the square.
I phoned the Villages CDD and the supervisor treated me as if I had no right to complain. It’s almost like it’s just turned into a money making business for the Morse family and everyone else in the developing business, and the owners have no say anymore.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by jricci13

I heard about the apartments being built, taking away the parking away Spanish Springs…
We are being over abused by people from outside communities such as Stone Crest, Recreation Plantation , Hilltop Estates and all the others that are getting through with their golf carts and already taking up our spaces
You know this as a fact or just reading opinion posts?

, using all of the recreation with guest passes from someone that lives in the villages,
Again where does this come from?

and using all the tee-times on our monthly CDD FEES…
You meant amenity fees right....you do know what they are?

and now we’re going to have tenants that we retrieve no income from
How do you know they will not be paying amenity fees?

that are gonna be taking the remaining few parking spaces that are left in the square.
How do you determine "few remaining"?

I phoned the Villages CDD and the supervisor treated me as if I had no right to complain.
If you used the above points, anybody would wonder where you were coming from.

It’s almost like it’s just turned into a money making business for the Morse family

Guess what, they are in the business to make money.......

and everyone else in the developing business,
Yep.

and the owners have no say anymore.

I been here 20 years, I cannot recall where any owners had any say in how The Villages was to be developed.


I am going to make an assumption, that you joined TOTV when you arrived. If so, you need more than a year to really know what is going on.

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by jricci13

I heard about the apartments being built, taking away the parking away Spanish Springs…
We are being over abused by people from outside communities such as Stone Crest, Recreation Plantation , Hilltop Estates and all the others that are getting through with their golf carts and already taking up our spaces, using all of the recreation with guest passes from someone that lives in the villages, and using all the tee-times on our monthly CDD FEES… and now we’re going to have tenants that we retrieve no income from that are gonna be taking the remaining few parking spaces that are left in the square.
I phoned the Villages CDD and the supervisor treated me as if I had no right to complain. It’s almost like it’s just turned into a money making business for the Morse family and everyone else in the developing business, and the owners have no say anymore.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

I been here 20 years, I cannot recall where any owners had any say in how The Villages was to be developed.


I am going to make an assumption, that you joined TOTV when you arrived. If so, you need more than a year to really know what is going on.

I'll take issue with the amenity fee statement. The developer still has the 150 free amenity fees from the AAC for the Hacienda Clubhouse to apartment building fiasco.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by jricci13

I heard about the apartments being built, taking away the parking away Spanish Springs…
We are being over abused by people from outside communities such as Stone Crest, Recreation Plantation , Hilltop Estates and all the others that are getting through with their golf carts and already taking up our spaces, using all of the recreation with guest passes from someone that lives in the villages, and using all the tee-times on our monthly CDD FEES… and now we’re going to have tenants that we retrieve no income from that are gonna be taking the remaining few parking spaces that are left in the square.
I phoned the Villages CDD and the supervisor treated me as if I had no right to complain. It’s almost like it’s just turned into a money making business for the Morse family and everyone else in the developing business, and the owners have no say anymore.

The developer is in the business to make money.

[JSR22]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

I'll take issue with the amenity fee statement. The developer still has the 150 free amenity fees from the ACC for the Hacienda Clubhouse fiasco.

Hacienda was not an amenity.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Personally, think a San Francisco theme would be comparatively less capital intensive and would be reasonable consistent with the surrounding area.

To do that the developer would have to bring in megatons of dirt to build hills, maybe put in tracks and a cable car and build a miniature Golden Gate Bridge. Oh, bringing in a bunch of homeless to panhandle, shoot up drugs in public and do their business in the streest would help authenticate it as San Francisco today.

[BostonRich]

I wonder if a food court type of operation, like that being built at Sawgrass Grove, would work in the Katie Belles space?

[jricci13]

I love the Spanish theme. I live a half of a half a mile from there are times when it’s packed with people. I just think as you go farther south and tends to be a younger crowd all day long. Spanish Spring drives in a lot of the locals late at night.

[Nucky]

The Developer Trying To Kill Spanish Springs? Can I present one simple question, please? Have some of our valued neighbors lost your damn minds? You don't want people walking their dogs on your property but telling someone else what to do with Real Estate that they have owned since the earth was flat is okay? Sorry but that doesn't compute. What's even crazier is that the demise of Spanish Springs is a figment of someone's immagination who has to much time on their hands.

Stop the foolishness. We are coming out of the biggest disaster of the last 100 years. Cut out stirring up something that doesn't exist or is none of your business!