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300 homes, not 1000 is what I read. Where did you get such a high number? I don't think you could get 1000 homes on 60 acres. As for the golf numbers, when I look at the available tee times the majority open are above 466. Seems to me it should not be a problem.
There are two area of expansion. By the VA clinic and on the other side of the Bapist church off 42. This will effect us all, even south of the mason Dixon line.
There also another 40 acres beside the VA expansion area available. I sure they be look to stuff more homes in there at some point.

On the other hand maybe it will attract more businesses on 42? Dairy queen maybe?
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Please refer to the Rec News, as you are describing a family pool/rec center sometimes referred to as Village rec centers. Neighborhood pools are adult pools for villagers and guests over 30 years of age. Neighborhood pools are located at the mail stations and usually only have bocce or shuffleboard courts.
Names; Big, medium and little.

George, Charles and Beatrice or

Family, Neighborhood and Regional.

I bet you there will be pickleball courts, if it is a MEDIUM size rec center.

I say wait and see. They haven't cheated us yet.

I am not worried about water, if The Villages doesn't build it some crummy company will and we will be surrounded by slums in no time and failed ventures.
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There will be an increase of 6% in the population of District 4 with no increase in Pickleball courts, Tennis courts, Bocce Courts, Shuffle Board Courts, Horseshoe courts, golf courses, meeting rooms, or picnic shelters. Now I'm pretty sure there isn't a chance for more golf up our way, but it does seem fair to expect at least a 6% increase in the other activities, especially meeting/game rooms.

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Was/Is there any estimate of how many of those houses would be sold to snowbirds and how many sold to permanent residents. Based on all of the complaints on this board I would doubt that any of our current residents would want to relocate to this expanded area due to the anticipated crowds and lack of amenities facilities. Each snowbird that buys a house will reduce the impact of 'people pollution' during times other than the "season" - correct?
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Was/Is there any estimate of how many of those houses would be sold to snowbirds and how many sold to permanent residents. Based on all of the complaints on this board I would doubt that any of our current residents would want to relocate to this expanded area due to the anticipated crowds and lack of amenities facilities. Each snowbird that buys a house will reduce the impact of 'people pollution' during times other than the "season" - correct?
Just remember eventually the snow birds become frogs
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Some do - some don't - I won't.
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Was/Is there any estimate of how many of those houses would be sold to snowbirds and how many sold to permanent residents. Based on all of the complaints on this board I would doubt that any of our current residents would want to relocate to this expanded area due to the anticipated crowds and lack of amenities facilities. Each snowbird that buys a house will reduce the impact of 'people pollution' during times other than the "season" - correct?
Depends on which side of the fence your on to when to consider "people pollution"

Why would current resident relocate to higher county tax area? Maybe few tax indoctrinated NE'ers? But, most try escape high taxation.
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I thought the area north of 466 is now governed under the Community Development form of government and no longer under the control of the developer. How is it that the developer can add more land to an area that
he doesn't own anymore? I would think in order to have this land included
it would need to be annexed into The Villages CD and be voted on. Perhaps
the IRS claim that the developer is in control isn't so far fetched after all.
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I thought the area north of 466 is now governed under the Community Development form of government and no longer under the control of the developer. How is it that the developer can add more land to an area that
he doesn't own anymore? I would think in order to have this land included
it would need to be annexed into The Villages CD and be voted on. Perhaps
the IRS claim that the developer is in control isn't so far fetched after all.
In part it was said in the April 2015 POA Bulletin.......

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Gary Moyer, The Villages Vice-President and Director of Development, said there are numerous details yet to be worked out and that The Villages will be working with CDD4 and Marion County in the future on the planning
for these new parcels.

When queried by an audience member, both Mr. Moyer and Mr. Roy acknowledged that the proposed 300 new units would be the
Ones permitted in the lawsuit settlement agreement. Thus, having reached the 300 limit, any additional new amenity contracts in the VCCDD territory would have to be approved by the Amenity Authority Committee (AAC) SNIP.......
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In my opinion, that danged lawsuit did nothing to help The Villages overall and gave power to the residents who aren't too great running things. I am glad I live south of 466.
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In my opinion, that danged lawsuit did nothing to help The Villages overall and gave power to the residents who aren't too great running things. I am glad I live south of 466.
Perhaps you should attend the CDD information meeting you urge others to attend. If so, you would be aware that Florida law requires that eventually the governance of the CDD must be turned over to the residents by way of election of a board of members. This doesn't apply to a non residential CDD (Villages commercial districts)so the landowner (developer) will continue to appoint the board for those areas.

Just some facts, not an opinion.
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Perhaps you should attend the CDD information meeting you urge others to attend. If so, you would be aware that Florida law requires that eventually the governance of the CDD must be turned over to the residents by way of election of a board of members. This doesn't apply to a non residential CDD (Villages commercial districts)so the landowner (developer) will continue to appoint the board for those areas.

Just some facts, not an opinion.
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In my opinion, that danged lawsuit did nothing to help The Villages overall and gave power to the residents who aren't too great running things. I am glad I live south of 466.
All that "danged" lawsuit did was give your neighbors north of 466 the ability to maintain their amenity facilities in the same manner that you enjoy in your premier section of the villages.
Did you ever drive on the cart paths along Buena Vista that wre like riding on a railroad track, or go to Paradise rec center where there was a mold problem? Do you not think your neighbors north of 466 deserve the benefits you enjoy for their amenity fees?
The only power it gave the residents was to improve the amenity facilities north of 466 for "all" villages to enjoy.

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Thanks for the explanation TVMayor. My understanding when I moved to TV's was each District Government is supposed to be run by a Board of Supervisors under Chapter 190 of the Florida Statutes. How is it the Amenity Authority Committee is now in control of such an important decision that affects all the residents? Where there is the will there is a way to circumvent the power of the people!
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In my opinion, that danged lawsuit did nothing to help The Villages overall and gave power to the residents who aren't too great running things. I am glad I live south of 466.

Bogie Shooter is a poster whose opinion I highly value, and he disagrees with my opinion above. I have to believe then, that I am wrong because he is fair and honest and a huge fan of The Villages, and I trust his opinion..

I get so tired of the people who just bash, bash, bash, and I may have just lashed out.

I am sorry.
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Thanks for the explanation TVMayor. My understanding when I moved to TV's was each District Government is supposed to be run by a Board of Supervisors under Chapter 190 of the Florida Statutes. How is it the Amenity Authority Committee is now in control of such an important decision that affects all the residents? Where there is the will there is a way to circumvent the power of the people!
Happy V, do yourself a favor and attend this orientation.

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