[srswans]

Originally Posted by Dennys37Packard

I seriously never thought to shortly beep my horn.... I will from now on. I just assumed bikers saw me in their mirrors. Thank you for your post.

No, please don’t beep at cyclists. Read the entire thread.

[chenault55]

Originally Posted by dhdallas

In the past couple of days I have ridden my bicycle over 70 miles on the multi-modal trails. Only one cart driver had the common courtesy to beep their horn so I would know to keep right and let them pass. All the others (and I mean at least 100 carts or more) just whizzed by without a sound. With a helmet on and the wind noise I cannot hear even a gas cart until it is almost on top of me. I always ring my bike bell when approaching walkers or slower bikes & beep my horn if in my cart. Many golfers seem to think the multi-modal paths were built just for them...wrong. Let's share the road and be courteous & safe - use your horn before passing.

As an aside, I watched a cart almost roll over today on the path between Bradford & Chitty Chatty. The male driver took a curve too fast & I watched as his right rear wheel lifted several inches off the path. I cannot believe the speeds at which cart drivers take curves. In particular, the aluminum chassis electric carts running lithium ion batteries (like mine) are extremely lightweight compared to their gas counterparts and much easier to roll. Use a little common sense and live to a ripe old age!

I’m embarrassed to say I didn’t know to do it was a curtesy. I thought it was rude to honk. Since it is a curtesy I will do it gladly.

[A-2-56]

I believe that the original OP has a great point. When carts pass walkers or bicycles they should beep their horns. Whether if be one cart or 12 carts, each one should beep so the other knows what is coming.I think that this should be extended to a national traffic law for all vehicle on all thoroughfares.
Yes when a car passes you, they need to honk. When a semi comes along side of you they should get on that air horn. This would be better for everyone. Every pass or and other operator deserves notification.
After all, why should the responsibility for other vehicles in your space be your responsibility. You just want to go for a ride, everyone else is responsible for your safety. I truly believe this would be beneficial for all.
Also good for the economy as we will have to buy more horns to replace those that we wore out.

[fcgiii]

Originally Posted by dhdallas

In the past couple of days I have ridden my bicycle over 70 miles on the multi-modal trails. Only one cart driver had the common courtesy to beep their horn so I would know to keep right and let them pass. All the others (and I mean at least 100 carts or more) just whizzed by without a sound. With a helmet on and the wind noise I cannot hear even a gas cart until it is almost on top of me. I always ring my bike bell when approaching walkers or slower bikes & beep my horn if in my cart. Many golfers seem to think the multi-modal paths were built just for them...wrong. Let's share the road and be courteous & safe - use your horn before passing.

As an aside, I watched a cart almost roll over today on the path between Bradford & Chitty Chatty. The male driver took a curve too fast & I watched as his right rear wheel lifted several inches off the path. I cannot believe the speeds at which cart drivers take curves. In particular, the aluminum chassis electric carts running lithium ion batteries (like mine) are extremely lightweight compared to their gas counterparts and much easier to roll. Use a little common sense and live to a ripe old age!

Of course all bicyclists warn pedestrians they are coming by ringing their bell. My wife got hit by a cyclist who smacked right into her without warning when she moved unknowingly into his path, knocking them both flat. He scrambled up and zipped away. Courtesy goes both ways.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by fcgiii

Of course all bicyclists warn pedestrians they are coming by ringing their bell. My wife got hit by a cyclist who smacked right into her without warning when she moved unknowingly into his path, knocking them both flat. He scrambled up and zipped away. Courtesy goes both ways.

when I rode, if I came up behind walkers, I'd warn them with a "biker behind you, on your left (or right)". I'd also slow down because I didn't want to crash. This should only be a problem on small, one lane roads or paths, because on a two lane road, the bike should be going with traffic, and the walkers against traffic. However, as we all know, some people have their own particular sense of what works best, so you'll get the bike riding against traffic, or the walker walking with traffic.
I guess now we'll get more "honkers" blasting away, annoying 99% of the bikers while they think they are being courteous.
After a few angry gestures from bicyclists they'll start to figure out that the OP's opinion is an outlier, and eventually they'll stop honking.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by thevillages2013

He’s back!

when I’m not here , I’m not here lol

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Laker14

Bikers are not required by law to yield to carts and autos. They are entitled to their space on the road, equally to cars and carts.
It is also not mandatory that a bike pull off onto the shoulder where all the broken glass and muffler pieces are laying, in order to make it easier for cars to pass.

Cars should not attempt to pass a bicyclist by squeezing between the bike and the center line. They should wait until they have clear vision and can ascertain they have sufficient room ahead in the oncoming lane to use it to pass and give the bike plenty of room when they pass.

We’ll bikers had better start yielding because a car & a golf cart can do a lot more damage to the biker than a bike can to them. I’m a biker too & I have 2 mirrors on my bike & 1 on my helmet. Don’t come here & try to start an argument, I’m just saying when you’re on a cart/bike path. Golf carts run faster than a biker, so I’m just saying stay close to the side of the path then the carts can have plenty of room to pass without having to honk at every bike they pass. Not hear to argue just saying cars & carts are bigger so use your mirrors & avoid an unnecessary collision!

[STEVENMERL]

Originally Posted by dhdallas

In the past couple of days I have ridden my bicycle over 70 miles on the multi-modal trails. Only one cart driver had the common courtesy to beep their horn so I would know to keep right and let them pass. All the others (and I mean at least 100 carts or more) just whizzed by without a sound. With a helmet on and the wind noise I cannot hear even a gas cart until it is almost on top of me. I always ring my bike bell when approaching walkers or slower bikes & beep my horn if in my cart. Many golfers seem to think the multi-modal paths were built just for them...wrong. Let's share the road and be courteous & safe - use your horn before passing.

As an aside, I watched a cart almost roll over today on the path between Bradford & Chitty Chatty. The male driver took a curve too fast & I watched as his right rear wheel lifted several inches off the path. I cannot believe the speeds at which cart drivers take curves. In particular, the aluminum chassis electric carts running lithium ion batteries (like mine) are extremely lightweight compared to their gas counterparts and much easier to roll. Use a little common sense and live to a ripe old age!

There are people driving golf carts that are souped up, don't follow any of the safe driving rules and are truly a menace.
I suggest that golf carts should be registered and have some means of identification so they could be reported to The Village Public Safety enforcment for speeding and reckless driving. I also beleive that Public Safety should patrol the cart paths so we can get these menaces off the road.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by thevillages2013

The better golfers don’t ride in a cart at all they WALK and someone carries their clubs for them!

They also are young, play competitively, and don’t have arthritis, knee, and hip replacements. And before and after their rounds, the get treatment from their personal trainers. We are talking about the Villages, not the PGA Tour.

[Jpetraus]

Definitely don’t honk! May scare the biker and make them think you are about to run into them!! Also the constant din of horns will disturb the peace.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

They also are young, play competitively, and don’t have arthritis, knee, and hip replacements. And before and after their rounds, the get treatment from their personal trainers. We are talking about the Villages, not the PGA Tour.

Did a "Spit take" when I read your last sentence. Reading the golf threads with all the comments of, " do this, don't do that, hurry up, slow down, etc, etc", it becomes evident that many believe it is the "Tour" and take it verrry seriously.
⛳

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Jpetraus

Definitely don’t honk! May scare the biker and make them think you are about to run into them!! Also the constant din of horns will disturb the peace.

A quick "beep" of a horn is a "constant din?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by fcgiii

Of course all bicyclists warn pedestrians they are coming by ringing their bell. My wife got hit by a cyclist who smacked right into her without warning when she moved unknowingly into his path, knocking them both flat. He scrambled up and zipped away. Courtesy goes both ways.

I don't have a bell. If I'm about to pass someone jogging/walking, who is facing the same direction I'm heading, on one of the MMPs I just yell "right behind you" so they know I'm there. I trust walkers/joggers to be smart enough to not suddenly decide to step over to their left at the exact same moment I'm about to pass them, without looking to see if someone is behind them. The yell is loud enough that they'll hear me if they're not wearing ear-buds, but not so loud that it'd shock them into tipping over the edge of the road.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye

I totally agree with you. Besides I didn’t know a cart was suppose to honk when passing as being polite or it was the law. The biker should have a mirror on his bike if he can’t hear, that’s not safe not to hear who’s coming up behind you! Besides I thought bikers had to yield for auto’s & cart, not the other way around!

Originally Posted by Laker14

Bikers are not required by law to yield to carts and autos. They are entitled to their space on the road, equally to cars and carts.
It is also not mandatory that a bike pull off onto the shoulder where all the broken glass and muffler pieces are laying, in order to make it easier for cars to pass.

Cars should not attempt to pass a bicyclist by squeezing between the bike and the center line. They should wait until they have clear vision and can ascertain they have sufficient room ahead in the oncoming lane to use it to pass and give the bike plenty of room when they pass.

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye

We’ll bikers had better start yielding because a car & a golf cart can do a lot more damage to the biker than a bike can to them. I’m a biker too & I have 2 mirrors on my bike & 1 on my helmet. Don’t come here & try to start an argument, I’m just saying when you’re on a cart/bike path. Golf carts run faster than a biker, so I’m just saying stay close to the side of the path then the carts can have plenty of room to pass without having to honk at every bike they pass. Not hear to argue just saying cars & carts are bigger so use your mirrors & avoid an unnecessary collision!

I wasn't trying to start an argument. I was responding to a common misconception, that often leads to anger and aggression. You stated that you thought bikers had to yield to carts and autos, and that is simply not the law. Quite the opposite actually.

When I rode I had a few altercations with angry drivers who felt it was my duty to pull off onto a shoulder strewn with glass and fallen-off car parts, rather than the driver of the auto's duty to just wait until he had a clear space to pass.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

A quick "beep" of a horn is a "constant din?

if every cart passing every biker used a quick beep of the horn, it would get pretty noisy pretty fast.