[Allegiance]

Originally Posted by rubicon

See my prediction in post 131 is spot on concerning alternate paths and the duke energy pathway hasn't even been sold or closed. And now we also have water oaks to contend with

Is water oaks Golf cart accessible?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Allegiance

Is water oaks Golf cart accessible?

Water Oaks. I think I saw a resident on Wesh2 News last night who hit a starter in the face with a golf club. Where is Water Oaks exactly?

[Allegiance]

south of sams Club same side of 441

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by Cajulian

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I think Stonecrest should take over the path and put up gates at each end. Then negotiate a reciprocal deal with the Villages for their use to get to Walmart and Stonecrest use at Paradise.

Only fair. I saw your earlier comment "Payback is Hell".

Surely hope your post was tongue in cheek! If not - here's food for thought:

Is it not fact that the Villages' Paradise gate is part of the overall intent to deny people other than Villagers golf cart access to the community? Negotiating with Stoecrest wold set precedent to negotiate with Fruitland Park and Wildwood - would it not? If the Developer had no qualms about installing 'the wall' - what makes anyone think there is an oppty to negotiate access?

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by Cajulian

Steve, interesting post on possibly using another gate to get Aldi's and the other locations if they close off the short path between Walmart and Aldi's.

I know the two Stonecrest gates on each side of Walmart. But where might there be a possible gate setup for Stonecrest to bypass the Duke portion of the path.

Is there a spot in Stonecrest further down for a gate.

I think Stonecrest should take over the path and put up gates at each end. Then negotiate a reciprocal deal with the Villages for their use to get to Walmart and Stonecrest use at Paradise.

Only fair. I saw your earlier comment "Payback is Hell".

Stonecrest is right next to the parking lot for the Doctor's Offices. Would just have to open a gate there. That would make 3 gates.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

Surely hope your post was tongue in cheek! If not - here's food for thought:

Is it not fact that the Villages' Paradise gate is part of the overall intent to deny people other than Villagers golf cart access to the community? Negotiating with Stoecrest wold set precedent to negotiate with Fruitland Park and Wildwood - would it not? If the Developer had no qualms about installing 'the wall' - what makes anyone think there is an oppty to negotiate access?

I believe the original wall was nothing more then the developer playing politics with Fruitland Park since they had requested access. However the Paradise gate did little to stop traffic from either Stonecrest or now Spruce Creek. All one needs is a street legal golf cart. So I never understood all the Hoop La and from what I read the gate is broken often and that is a real expense not counting the normal expense of service. Now myself I did not buy a street legal cart since the ride by cart is not as pleasant as the ride by auto. In most cases I'm going farther then Spanish Springs. However not having access to the Business there on the East side of 441 just North of Paradise gate would be a bummer.

[Cajulian]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

Surely hope your post was tongue in cheek! If not - here's food for thought:

Is it not fact that the Villages' Paradise gate is part of the overall intent to deny people other than Villagers golf cart access to the community? Negotiating with Stoecrest wold set precedent to negotiate with Fruitland Park and Wildwood - would it not? If the Developer had no qualms about installing 'the wall' - what makes anyone think there is an oppty to negotiate access?

I never said that it was an absolute option to negotiate a reciprocal agreement. Wishful thanking to solve both communities travel problems.

However, the statement stands that "Payback is Hell". If someone takes over that small stretch of property, they have the same right as the Paradise gate owners. They will also have the right to decide who they want to let thru.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by Cajulian

I never said that it was an absolute option to negotiate a reciprocal agreement. Wishful thanking to solve both communities travel problems.

However, the statement stands that "Payback is Hell". If someone takes over that small stretch of property, they have the same right as the Paradise gate owners. They will also have the right to decide who they want to let thru.

Another that may apply, "What goes around comes around". KARMA can be a real B.......! I just may take them up on the free offer, this could be a heap of fun. I'm retired, I could stand guard and check ID's.......

[chuckinca]

Originally Posted by Cajulian

I never said that it was an absolute option to negotiate a reciprocal agreement. Wishful thanking to solve both communities travel problems.

However, the statement stands that "Payback is Hell". If someone takes over that small stretch of property, they have the same right as the Paradise gate owners. They will also have the right to decide who they want to let thru.

I doubt many Stonecrest residents would approve buying the path so villagers could get to Wally World. As noted above, a Stonecrest gate to the medical offices is a possibility and would offset the closure of the Duke Energy Gate for Stonecrest.

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[NotGolfer]

That Walmart doesn't need to be accessed by villagers (except the historical side) as they have the one on 466 and soon the neighborhood one off from 466a. Both of those are golf-cart accessible.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by NotGolfer

That Walmart doesn't need to be accessed by villagers (except the historical side) as they have the one on 466 and soon the neighborhood one off from 466a. Both of those are golf-cart accessible.

The one off 466A is a market and pharmacy only.

[perrjojo]

All of the above is interesting but here is my thought....it is Duke Energy property. It is NOT the Duke Energy cart path. Those who use it as a cart path are trespassers. It doesn't matter why they want to/need to use it. They are trespassing. These people have taken it upon themselves to make it a cart path without authorization or permission. I hope it can be resolved to the best interest of all, but in the meantime...trespasser beware. This is not your property.

[Fredman]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

All of the above is interesting but here is my thought....it is Duke Energy property. It is NOT the Duke Energy cart path. Those who use it as a cart path are trespassers. It doesn't matter why they want to/need to use it. They are trespassing. These people have taken it upon themselves to make it a cart path without authorization or permission. I hope it can be resolved to the best interest of all, but in the meantime...trespasser beware. This is not your property.

Good summation of a situation that will linger on until Duke blocks the path

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

All of the above is interesting but here is my thought....it is Duke Energy property. It is NOT the Duke Energy cart path. Those who use it as a cart path are trespassers. It doesn't matter why they want to/need to use it. They are trespassing. These people have taken it upon themselves to make it a cart path without authorization or permission. I hope it can be resolved to the best interest of all, but in the meantime...trespasser beware. This is not your property.

Yepper, but some just don't care about facts.

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

All of the above is interesting but here is my thought....it is Duke Energy property. It is NOT the Duke Energy cart path. Those who use it as a cart path are trespassers. It doesn't matter why they want to/need to use it. They are trespassing. These people have taken it upon themselves to make it a cart path without authorization or permission. I hope it can be resolved to the best interest of all, but in the meantime...trespasser beware. This is not your property.

Facts just muddle the works - lets have more hearsay and conspiracy theories. Am I thinking of the of a "cart path" or the political situation?