[Cajulian]

Originally Posted by perrjojo

All of the above is interesting but here is my thought....it is Duke Energy property. It is NOT the Duke Energy cart path. Those who use it as a cart path are trespassers. It doesn't matter why they want to/need to use it. They are trespassing. These people have taken it upon themselves to make it a cart path without authorization or permission. I hope it can be resolved to the best interest of all, but in the meantime...trespasser beware. This is not your property.

This path has been in use now for at least 16 years with no concerns from Duke until recently. Whatever caused their current concerns will eventually be resolved by either transfer of the property or a shut down.

Interesting how many people want to put their two cents in on this discussion, when they have no vested interest or need to use this path.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

The 160th post removes the emotion and sums the thread up, quite well. Thanks

Duke Energy has summed it up in writing. If the path is not taken over by another party or an enchrochment agreement is not signed, the path will be closed. That is the official word from Duke, no emotion, just their official statement..

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by Cajulian

Thanks Steve. I didn't know that. Still not quite sure what street that would be to get over there within Stonecrest. Guess I will drive around and look.

Up in the Woods Area. We'll have to see if the path closes. I have already made a suggestion to Roger. If the path closes I'm sure their will be much interest.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Cajulian

This path has been in use now for at least 16 years with no concerns from Duke until recently. Whatever caused their current concerns will eventually be resolved by either transfer of the property or a shut down.

Interesting how many people want to put their two cents in on this discussion, when they have no vested interest or need to use this path.

Soooooooooo, the only people allowed to post are the trespassing criminals.

[Cajulian]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Steve and Cajulian: Let's begin with basics. All this discussion hasn't been created by village residents continuing breaches into Stonecrest, Water Oaks, etc. No we have this problem because like Stonecrest the theme was why pay more for the village lifestyle when you can have more with less and still have the village lifestyle.

Second Lets envision a map of The Villages and divide it into two parts both colored. The commercial district is green and the private residential district is red.

Green belongs ( owns, rents, etc) to the Developer and comprises his commercial interests which are open to the public. Green means go and all non-residents are welcomed.

The Red District belongs to residents who purchased a home at a premium, paid a bond and pay a monthly amenity fee which supports amenities such as rec centers, executive golf courses, multi-modal paths, etc.
Residents of Stonecrest ,etc had an equal opportunity to make such a purchase but chose otherwise. It would seem that breaching the red zone is the persistent goal of some residents of Stonecrest, Water Oaks, Spruce Creek, Oxford, etc.

Please don't get mad at us if we object and desire borders because we have and continue to pay our dues. The Villages is expanding at a rapid pace and we do not need additional traffic on our MMP, etc.

Fair is fair

Wow Rubicon! That's sounds pretty absurd. The Stonecrest and Del Webb communities have their own Rec Centers, Swimming Pools, golf courses, clubs, fitness centers that are equally as nice. What ever makes you think that anyone else outside your Red Zone wants to use your facilities? That is paranoid thinking.

The Villages public facilities are available to everyone. That is great for insiders and outsiders. Retail businesses need all the help they can get.

This topic is about the use of the Duke Cart path for Villagers, Stonecrest, and Spruce Creek. The Villages Lifestyle is not the topic here.

[NoMoSno]

I heard Cosco and Trader Joe's are building just north of Stonecrest

[Nucky]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Soooooooooo, the only people allowed to post are the trespassing criminals.

I thought SHHHHHHHHHH was the order of the day on this issue. This discussion is just getting started on a much more serious note. Lemme know the outcome. My bet is no interruption and a big hub bub about nuttin. Think I'll make it onto Cop's for Trespassing? Bad Boy Bad Boy Whatcha Gonna Do? What a bunch of B.S. over Zippity Do Da!

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by Cajulian

Wow Rubicon! That's sounds pretty absurd. The Stonecrest and Del Webb communities have their own Rec Centers, Swimming Pools, golf courses, clubs, fitness centers that are equally as nice. What ever makes you think that anyone else outside your Red Zone wants to use your facilities? That is paranoid thinking.

The Villages public facilities are available to everyone. That is great for insiders and outsiders. Retail businesses need all the help they can get.

This topic is about the use of the Duke Cart path for Villagers, Stonecrest, and Spruce Creek. The Villages Lifestyle is not the topic here.

Thanks for this post. There is nothing that I access in the villages that the village residents pay for in their monthly dues nor would I care to. Nor do any of my Stonecrest neighbors. The commercial properties have been constructed to make money for the developer. As the head count rises it sometimes gets to the point that just getting a bite to eat becomes a long adventure. Just what is the village life style?

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Cajulian

This path has been in use now for at least 16 years with no concerns from Duke until recently. Whatever caused their current concerns will eventually be resolved by either transfer of the property or a shut down.

Interesting how many people want to put their two cents in on this discussion, when they have no vested interest or need to use this path.

Excellent point.

While I am one of those that don't use that path/trail and have no vested interest, as a decent and caring human being I would like to see those who do need it...be able to keep using it.

Some of the comments here that in essence are saying (paraphrasing).. "we are the true Villagers and would rather see other Villagers lose their use of it, rather than have an 'outsider' use 'our' paths/MMP's"...seems pretty cold-hearted and selfish to me.

I mean really, other than a few more carts that would be impossible to distinguish from the hordes already here...what difference does it really make?

But hey, that's just my opinion and observation.

Here's hoping that a viable solution is put in place and those who now use it...will be able to continue to do so.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Excellent point.

Here's hoping that a viable solution is put in place and those who now use it...will be able to continue to do so.

Me too.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

I heard Cosco and Trader Joe's are building just north of Stonecrest

One side of me says, yippy yippy, the other sides says wonderful more traffic!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

Thanks for this post. There is nothing that I access in the villages that the village residents pay for in their monthly dues nor would I care to. Nor do any of my Stonecrest neighbors. The commercial properties have been constructed to make money for the developer. As the head count rises it sometimes gets to the point that just getting a bite to eat becomes a long adventure. Just what is the village life style?

Attracting developments such as Stonecrest.

[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

Thanks for this post. There is nothing that I access in the villages that the village residents pay for in their monthly dues nor would I care to. Nor do any of my Stonecrest neighbors. The commercial properties have been constructed to make money for the developer. As the head count rises it sometimes gets to the point that just getting a bite to eat becomes a long adventure. Just what is the village life style?

As a Villager, I welcome folks from outside The Villages to drive their cars into The Villages to shop and dine or pay the green fees to play the championship golf courses. It keeps the commercial areas healthy and benefits everyone.

What I see as the concern is when the non Villages visitors drive their carts on the Villages owned facilities i.e. the multi-modal paths. Adding congestion to already crowed and dangerous paths.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

My money is on the path being closed.

Originally Posted by Nucky

My bet is no interruption and a big hub bub about nuttin.

Unfortunately for retired seniors that rely on the path, I think Steve is right.
But wait, is that a white knight I see riding up?

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

But wait, is that a white knight I see riding up?