[fishon]

E85 is a much dirtier fuel, that’s why most major US cities ban it’s use in the summer due to increased air pollution.
The greenies will not be pleased.

[Keefelane66]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

If going all the way from E10 to E85 "costs" only 5mpg then I wonder if the difference between E10 and E15 is even noticeable.

Biden is temporarily allowing E15 NOT E85. “To be clear, E15 is gasoline. It's 88-octane fuel that is refined with 85 percent unleaded gas and 15 percent ethanol. E15 has been available through retail distributors since 2012 and, like the more popular E85 (unleaded gas plus between 51 and 83 percent ethanol), it can be used in all flexible-fuel vehicles.” Sep 21, 2021 MOTOTREND

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by JoelJohnson

Most modern cars will adjust (via the computer) for E15.

The gaskets used in many cars will not stand up to E15 fuels. Gonna cause EXPENSIVE repairs.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by villagetinker

I am wondering if the use of E15 will have any effect on a vehicle's warranty????

Or a golf cart warranty, all of these state E10 gas.......

When, they started adding alcohol to gasoline it caused gaskets to fail. My car says E10.
My golf cart is E10. Gonna be some EXPENSIVE repairs.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

So, let’s see if I understand. Food prices are soaring, the Russian invasion of Ukraine is disrupting the supply of wheat and other grain across many countries, and people are starving in many parts of the world. So let’s take an important source of food and use it to dilute gas and make it less efficient. Great friggin idea, NOT!

I perhaps read too much, remember some and expect, no demand it makes sense.
Far as corn, I've read that 80% of the calories in America come from corn. It is not just the few ears we buy at the grocery, it is a major feed for livestock.

[Babubhat]

Other interesting facts about ethanol from Honda.

Ethanol is produced from corn, soybeans, sugar cane, or other organic material. It is blended with gasoline (10% ethanol, 90% gasoline) to produce E10.

Ethanol has 28% less energy density than gasoline, so it reduces fuel efficiency.

Ethanol is an excellent solvent, drying agent and cleanser. It will clean or dissolve some parts of, and deposits in, fuel storage and fuel delivery systems, including some fuel tank materials. The dissolved material can clog filters or pass through and leave deposits on fuel injectors, fuel pumps, fuel pressure regulators, carburetor jets, intake tracts, valves, and valve guides.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by DAVES

I perhaps read too much, remember some and expect, no demand it makes sense.
Far as corn, I've read that 80% of the calories in America come from corn. It is not just the few ears we buy at the grocery, it is a major feed for livestock.

High Fructose Corn Syrup is in EVERYTHING!

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Keefelane66

Biden is temporarily allowing E15 NOT E85. “To be clear, E15 is gasoline. It's 88-octane fuel that is refined with 85 percent unleaded gas and 15 percent ethanol. E15 has been available through retail distributors since 2012 and, like the more popular E85 (unleaded gas plus between 51 and 83 percent ethanol), it can be used in all flexible-fuel vehicles.” Sep 21, 2021 MOTOTREND

You may want to direct your reply to the poster who provided E85 statistics in this thread about E15 fuel.

[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Sorry, the corn grown for ethanol is not suitable for eating. It is a special type designed/grown to optimize fuel production.

That said, I would be just as happy if they did away with gasohol. Don't like it or much of anything about it.

That said, It will make a very small impact on fast price for a limited number of people. So, better than nothing, but just barely.

From the Nebraska Corn Board

Field corn is the classic big ears of yellow dented corn you see dried and harvested in the fall. In fact, it’s sometime called “dent corn” because of the distinctive dent that forms on the kernel as the corn dries.

Field corn has dozens of uses, but it is most commonly fed to animals or used to make renewable fuels like ethanol to power our cars and trucks. But only part of the kernel is used for ethanol (the starch), the rest of the kernel, including the protein and fat, are then used to make another popular animal feed known as distillers grains.

People don’t eat field corn directly from the field because it’s hard and certainly not sweet. Instead, field corn must go through a mill and be converted to food products and ingredients like corn syrup, corn flakes, yellow corn chips, corn starch or corn flour.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

From the Nebraska Corn Board

Field corn is the classic big ears of yellow dented corn you see dried and harvested in the fall. In fact, it’s sometime called “dent corn” because of the distinctive dent that forms on the kernel as the corn dries.

Field corn has dozens of uses, but it is most commonly fed to animals or used to make renewable fuels like ethanol to power our cars and trucks. But only part of the kernel is used for ethanol (the starch), the rest of the kernel, including the protein and fat, are then used to make another popular animal feed known as distillers grains.

People don’t eat field corn directly from the field because it’s hard and certainly not sweet. Instead, field corn must go through a mill and be converted to food products and ingredients like corn syrup, corn flakes, yellow corn chips, corn starch or corn flour.

Ya, so what’s your point? If the land, efforts, and resources used to grow field corn was instead channeled onto growing sweet corn, also known as food corn, instead of growing field corn for ethanol, the gas we use would be more efficient and the world would have a much greater food supply. Farmers grow what they are incentivize to grow, not what is best for society. Stop incentivized farmers to grow corn that pollutes gas and doesn’t feed people.

[Anne Cink]

Does it really make sense to spend "$100 million" on "biofuel infrastructure" when we could spend $0.00. if Biden would take the handcuffs off the oil and natural gas producers?

[Southwest737]

Thank you Elon Musk for the best automobile we have owned. Tesla. No gas.

[Retiredsteve]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

It seems you won't have to worry too much about it because most stations likely won't have it for quite a long time and by then it will probably be moot anyway.

E15 fuel is available only "at a few thousand pumps today," but said the U.S. will invest $100 million in biofuel infrastructure. E15 gas is currently available at about 2,300 fueling stations, according to the Department of Energy.

Even Uncle Sen. Chucky G is happy about it (read his Twitter posts) because it will make all his farmers happy and even the last guy ordered it available year round but the courts shut it down and even The Supremes refused to hear it so it can't be all bad.

[Luggage]

Lower gas prices but higher food prices . And more pollution. Doesn't make any sense .

[Luggage]

I think the nomenclature is wrong here