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Old 04-14-2022, 09:14 AM
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More ethanol in the mix lowers fuel mileage.
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Old 04-14-2022, 09:17 AM
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Ethanol in gasoline has been supported by the domestic car manufacturers for 20 years (remember the yellow gas cap?).

Having this alternative will help reduce gas prices and prevent shortages of gas in the future. (Remember the long gas lines in the 1970’s?).

Glad to see we will have alternatives in the future. Much better to plan ahead than do nothing!!!
Great idea 💡. Open up America for drilling and we will have $2 gallon again. America sits on a sea of fuel
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Old 04-14-2022, 10:32 AM
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Ethanol, in any amount in your fuel tank WILL attract and hold moisture. You need to use a fuel additive (Stabil, Chevron, etc.) to help dissipate the moisture. This too, is an added cost. And for those who don't drive much, rust or corrosion in the fuel system is a royal PITA.
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Vote for what? Most cars do quite well on E15 and its good for American Farmers.
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Does the ballot say E15, yes or no?
No but you know who got us in this mess so you know who not to vote for.
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E15 isn't a good solution for non automobile use. Motorcycle owners may find that use of E15 voids their warranty. Ethanol gas also may attack fuel lines in small engines. Ethanol resistant fuel lines may be purchased at local parts stores.
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Old 04-14-2022, 12:13 PM
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So pleased to hear that E15 gasoline will be available this summer. Whoops my car and a lot of other cars won’t run on E15.
I had an RX7 and got home after a run in real hot weather, pull into the garage, got out and could hear some thing that did not seem right. I open the hood and you could hear the gas boiling in the carburetor. I suppose that won't happen with fuel injection but I don't think any of the cars or other gas using equipment is going to like E15. I try to buy alcohol free gas for my generator. I would put it in the cars but the octane rating is to low.
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Vote for what? Most cars do quite well on E15 and its good for American Farmers.
Well, considering it's not widely used, nor available, how would you know that?
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Vote for what? Most cars do quite well on E15 and its good for American Farmers.
Correction, E15 will be good for engine mechanics that fix all the problems it creates.
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Old 04-14-2022, 02:57 PM
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Great idea 💡. Open up America for drilling and we will have $2 gallon again. America sits on a sea of fuel
America IS open to drilling, the oil companies have over 9,000 drilling permits they are not using.

Thanks to the pandemic and "graying of the workforce" there is a shortage of workers to bring more wells online.

And the BIG reason they are not bringing more wells online:

Over the last decade, U.S. oil production saw tremendous growth. But when prices crashed in 2014, investors lost big money. Oil prices are notoriously volatile, with the industry often suffering from boom-and-bust cycles.

But in the last few years, investors have been making clear to oil producers that they should not sink money into additional drilling in pursuit of the next oil boom. Instead, they want companies to pay back investors.

Exploration and production companies have responded by recording explosive dividend growth. According to the Morningstar U.S. Market Index, the average dividend in dollars per share has grown from $14 in 2018 to $40 in 2021, an increase of more than 180%.

"Energy companies were very afraid to ramp production because they were going to get punished by investors," said Morris, of data provider Alerian.

So, as always the decision to drilling or not is MONEY, not Biden, despite how much so many want to blame Biden.
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Old 04-14-2022, 03:01 PM
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It is estimated that approximately 1.5% of gas stations will receive E15. Yeah, that is going to destroy EVERYONES cars and golf carts.

The World is going to end, all our cars will be destroyed! OMG! (sarcasm)

All new cars in the US (new meaning made after 2001) can burn some levels of Ethanol. Long term usage of higher levels will cause some wear on engines, 3 months over summer is not long term use. This is a temporary action, it is not intended to solve the problem, it is intended to do exactly what was said, help some small number of people.
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I don't see the problem
After all, we do have plenty of fuel underneath us, don't we? I guess someone intends to force us to use Chinese made batteries in our $80k priced vehicles. Everyone can afford an $80k car, right? Hey, the working stiff doesn't need to pay a mortgage. A car is much more important. Let's see, transportation to work or place to sleep? What a conundrum.
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I worked for Fo. Mo. Co. for 38 yrs. & I’m telling you Ethanol wear out your engine. I worked in the Dyno Lab & when tore down the engines that had Ethanol, it was totally burnt brown. We always used High test gas, every once in a while we ran regular gas when we got behind or used in special application engine like in process engines. Personally I think the govt. will start using more & more ethanol & car & trucks will wear out quicker! So the ones here that are making comments here about Ethanol know engines. It’s something we have to put up with. Most people don’t know the difference. It’s a terrible additive!
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There is an SAE article on the effects of ethanol on engine wear.

The Effects of Alcohol Fuels and Fully Formulated Lubricants on Engine Wear

Essentially, ethanol does not increase engine wear but methanol, which isn't really used, does have a negative impact. I know people with over 300K miles on their engines and use 10% ethanol fuel. My own experience with 10% ethanol fuel only goes to 165K miles with no observable engine wear as determined by no noticeable oil consumption or decrease in mileage. Be that as it may, I would follow your owner's manual with regard to which fuel is recommended. For E15, you want to look for "Flex fuel" designation for your car otherwise I would stick with E10, despite what the EPA thinks (who didn't design and manufacture your car). The easiest way to impact engine wear is to change your oil at the manufacturer recommended interval, as well as perform other recommended maintenance.


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I worked for Fo. Mo. Co. for 38 yrs. & I’m telling you Ethanol wear out your engine. I worked in the Dyno Lab & when tore down the engines that had Ethanol, it was totally burnt brown. We always used High test gas, every once in a while we ran regular gas when we got behind or used in special application engine like in process engines. Personally I think the govt. will start using more & more ethanol & car & trucks will wear out quicker! So the ones here that are making comments here about Ethanol know engines. It’s something we have to put up with. Most people don’t know the difference. It’s a terrible additive!

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