[JGVillages]

So I can get where I’m going faster?

[Mrprez]

Considering that our next vacation to Alaska will entail over 12,000 miles of driving, 500 miles doesn’t excite me one bit.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Brad-tv

Lots of ev haters as usual

Love em or hate em they will dominate the roads in the next 5-10 years and I would expect 500 miles will be the low range soon

I'd take that bet.
EVs will NOT "dominate the roads in the next 5-10 years" AND it will take a major revolutionary breakthrough to get much more than 500miles on a mobile battery pack with one charge. That said, even with that, how long would you be on in line or at the charging station to charge the battery pack? Sorry, but once folks find out how long it will take to get a charge on their EV, they will gladly trade it in for a gas guzzler.
I expect to get up to 30 more years on this earth and I sincerely doubt I will ever be forced to move to an EV. As a matter of fact, I am looking to trade my battery powered golf cart in for a fossil fuel replacement. Do I worry about air pollution? IN my lifetime, the air has gotten cleaner. Machinery has become more fuel efficient and less polluting. The air quality is much better now than when I was a child.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Brad-tv

Oh I’m sorry your right, reading through the threads over the last year or so it appears people love EVs or “strongly dislike” them.

So in your world we are not allowed to think for ourselves and disagree with you?

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Just because some of us have some skepticism why call us ev haters?

It's not you, your posts sound like healthy skepticism. Others go out of their way too ridicule either the EV or the poster.

Maybe they are just joking, it is hard to tell without knowing them.

[Arctic Fox]

The median range of an EV in 2011 was around 60 miles; ten years later it is five times that at 300 miles.

Charging used to take eight hours. Now you can get an 80% charge in thirty minutes.

While today's figures may not be enough to satisfy everyone, they do show how quickly things have improved and, like the increasing power of our laptops, they are likely to continue improving at a surprisingly high rate.

[Michael G.]

Don't you ever wonder if they said the same about vehicles in the horse and buggy days about switching
from horses to cars?? LOL

I always said it's "YOU and I", the genral public that are the gunnie pigs for electric vehicles.

Get us to spend $30-40-50 thousand dollars on a vehicle to save a couple cents on gas only to have the manufactures say:
"OH, so sorry that didn't work, let's try something else", all on our dime after we already bought the dam thing.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Don't you ever wonder if they said the same about vehicles in the horse and buggy days about switching
from horses to cars?? LOL

I always said it's "YOU and I", the genral public that are the gunnie pigs for electric vehicles.

Get us to spend $30-40-50 thousand dollars on a vehicle to save a couple cents on gas only to have the manufactures say:
"OH, so sorry that didn't work, let's try something else", all on our dime after we already bought the dam thing.

If they all convert to electric and it does not sell people will hold onto their old cars forcing auto manufacturers to start making cars that run on gas unless some new technology comes along.

And of course if they go bankrupt in the process guess who will be bailing them out.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox

The median range of an EV in 2011 was around 60 miles; ten years later it is five times that at 300 miles.

Charging used to take eight hours. Now you can get an 80% charge in thirty minutes.

While today's figures may not be enough to satisfy everyone, they do show how quickly things have improved and, like the increasing power of our laptops, they are likely to continue improving at a surprisingly high rate.

I thought that was only at the Tesla "Supercharger" stations...

[Arctic Fox]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

I thought that was only at the Tesla "Supercharger" stations...

Level 3 charging stations are becoming widespread and most new EVs can utilize them (although not all can accept the very fastest charge)

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Don't you ever wonder if they said the same about vehicles in the horse and buggy days about switching
from horses to cars?? LOL

I always said it's "YOU and I", the genral public that are the gunnie pigs for electric vehicles.

Get us to spend $30-40-50 thousand dollars on a vehicle to save a couple cents on gas only to have the manufactures say:
"OH, so sorry that didn't work, let's try something else", all on our dime after we already bought the dam thing.

Even horses die slow death much like battery :duck.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox

The median range of an EV in 2011 was around 60 miles; ten years later it is five times that at 300 miles.

Charging used to take eight hours. Now you can get an 80% charge in thirty minutes.

While today's figures may not be enough to satisfy everyone, they do show how quickly things have improved and, like the increasing power of our laptops, they are likely to continue improving at a surprisingly high rate.

Not quick enough for most of us around here we will be making rare earth minerals in few short years

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox

Level 3 charging stations are becoming widespread and most new EVs can utilize them (although not all can accept the very fastest charge)

You mean the one's that can theoretically charge the battery to 80% in 30 minutes?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Not quick enough for most of us around here we will be making rare earth minerals in few short years

Making them out of what?

[bogmonster]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You mean the one's that can theoretically charge the battery to 80% in 30 minutes?

Greatest thing is you are a captive audience once you get to one of these chargers. $0.20 or $20.00 per kw you have no choice except possibly walking home.

For me, that’s one of the reasons I bought my Tesla model x. Elon figured out the charging side before he sold cars. I was lucky and my x came with unlimited free supercharging, though if I supercharge too much my battery will be toast in a year or so.