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Old 03-19-2017, 02:54 PM
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Always walk on the LEFT facing traffic SINGLE file - ALWAYS.......
I have found that while walking the MMPs, sometimes the MMPs split, with a median. Often, the side I should walk on, the left side, facing oncoming traffic, will have no room on the right or left of it (being bordered by vegetation very close to the curb) for me to get away from oncoming traffic.

The path that branches off to the right may well have some grass that I can walk on should I hear a cart coming from behind me. I would much rather walk facing traffic, but seeing it coming won't do me any good if I have no place to go.
I like the MMPs, but my head is always on a swivel.
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:58 PM
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I have to say walking on the path and standing my ground would not be the way I would want to see who wins. Kind of like stepping into the road at the crosswalk on a green light and seeing if someone's going to stop for me. I value my life just as much as the person driving the golf cart and would never want to put them in jeopardy either.

Walking on the path you need to be pro active, no matter who is right, that cart is bigger than me. To watch someone swerve to miss me and roll their cart, injuring them or maybe taking their life. It would haunt me forever.
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i dont care who u are,,, but u hit a walker, u better have some good insurance,, i walk and yes i take up enough of my portion of the mmp that as u are coming at me as i am facing u walking on the left side, YOU. will have to go into the oncoming lane , No I will not get over or walk in the grass , i have just as much right to be there as you do! I know i sound like one of those butthead cyclists when dealing with cars on the roads! but you hit me as a walker u are in a world of legal trouble! i walk in the left half on my side of the lane, and i am not getting over for you!
well, whoever does hit you probably will have good insurance. And a good lawyer, and after you have been well paid for your injuries, he or she will be teeing it up, and you will be in rehab trying to learn to walk again on your mashed up knees. But you showed them!! Good job!!
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i dont care who u are,,, but u hit a walker, u better have some good insurance,, i walk and yes i take up enough of my portion of the mmp that as u are coming at me as i am facing u walking on the left side, YOU. will have to go into the oncoming lane , No I will not get over or walk in the grass , i have just as much right to be there as you do! I know i sound like one of those butthead cyclists when dealing with cars on the roads! but you hit me as a walker u are in a world of legal trouble! i walk in the left half on my side of the lane, and i am not getting over for you!
Good for you!! When you're in the hospital recovering from your injuries, you'll know you were in the right!!!
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well, whoever does hit you probably will have good insurance. And a good lawyer, and after you have been well paid for your injuries, he or she will be teeing it up, and you will be in rehab trying to learn to walk again on your mashed up knees. But you showed them!! Good job!!
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tried to tell them that but when their under the cart they can't hear me,oh well
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tried to tell them that but when their under the cart they can't hear me,oh well



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I suspect you are not a cyclist. I am. The actions of virtually all cyclists are motivated by increasing our visibility to cars and not putting ourselves in positions where we will collide with a car or be driven into the curb by a car. This generally involves moving to the center of a lane at certain times such as when entering a roundabout or on curves on two lane roads. To suggest anything else is just absurd. Unlike you, I will get out of the way of anything or anyone that is likely to collide with me. I have been hit by a car as a pedestrian and I have had a crash on my road bike (hit a curb). Trust me when I say you don't want to be involved in either of those.

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i dont care who u are,,, but u hit a walker, u better have some good insurance,, i walk and yes i take up enough of my portion of the mmp that as u are coming at me as i am facing u walking on the left side, YOU. will have to go into the oncoming lane , No I will not get over or walk in the grass , i have just as much right to be there as you do! I know i sound like one of those butthead cyclists when dealing with cars on the roads! but you hit me as a walker u are in a world of legal trouble! i walk in the left half on my side of the lane, and i am not getting over for you!

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Were are these rules of the MMP written down? Like two for three people walking abreast taking up 3/4 of the path. When facing traffic (walking the wrong direction) does it say you don't have move off to prevent and accidents? I walk the path all the time, I don't hesitate to GET OFF the path. I value my health over being right. Share also means sharing the responsibility for safety.
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Were are these rules of the MMP written down? Like two for three people walking abreast taking up 3/4 of the path. When facing traffic (walking the wrong direction) does it say you don't have move off to prevent and accidents? I walk the path all the time, I don't hesitate to GET OFF the path. I value my health over being right. Share also means sharing the responsibility for safety.
Facing traffic, walking in the wrong direction?
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I am a very "casual" biker and stick to neighborhoods and have a blast. I go in and out of different areas, spend as little time on a main strip as possible and have a lot of fun. No hassle, no goal, just peddle and stay off the main streets.
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[QUOTE=TheDude;1356158]I have no problem with bikes and walkers on the paths (I was going to call them golf car paths but I can be fair).

My problem is this...

There are some turns and hidden areas that a walker may come up on a golf cart. I really do not notice this with bikes.

What gets me is instead of moving out of the way in tight situations, that they stand their ground and wave the cart away from them (and maybe into another cart).

Its like a Jedi mind trick.

Now the problem...

Walkers are not protected and they have to take their safety seriously. If it was me, and it was crashing into a walker or crossing into traffic and hitting multiple people, well, I am sorry.


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Best to be careful and not get into an accident at any spot, the paths are for walkers, carts and bikes. A lot of dangerous situations are seen every day that I ride my bike. Well we are on land, on the sea, it is the responsibility of any vessel to take any steps possible to avoid an accident. Remember if YOU are walking or biking,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, a cart at 20 mph is moving at 29 FEET PER SECOND! On any path, while biking, I pull over for walkers and carts and other bikes, yep, just do anything to prevent and accident. Just forget right of ways, forget who has the right of way, YOU DO NOT WANT TO SPEND A WEEK IN THE HOSPITAL, NOT GOOD FOLKS.
BE SAFE, ALWAYS.



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I think you missed my point. There are some who implicitly (and incorrectly, I may add) assume that golf carts have more rights on the MMPs than walkers. This erroneous assumption is most likely part of the problem; they don't recognize their responsibilities. This was an opportunity to set forth the facts. I generally prefer not to pontificate over what I think should be but try to focus on what is.
I didn't miss your point at all. In fact my first sentence agrees that what you said is true. I am simply stating that even though it's true and that walkers have the same rights as golf carts, people walking on the paths are exposing themselves to great danger. They might be right, but they may also be dead right.
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