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Their "Water Management" system, didn't do much good during Irma.
Ask anyone on the historic side.
You couldn't cross the golf cart bridge for a week and the power was about that long.
It didn’t work on the historical side because it did not exist when they built that area. It did work the proof is no flooding where it was in place everywhere outside of the historical side.
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Appears that you received a lot of "professional" answers on your question. Just wondering how many from engineers that knew or knows the original design parameters and design for various areas of Villages. Same for up grades. My bet not one. Opinions aren't facts and just because you read it on the internet doesn't make it correct. Verify your sources.
Appears you didn't watch the "professionals" giving information in the linked video...
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Really? Always a troll in these threads. I guess you would bring up the 1906 Earthquake and troll the lack of preparedness if you lived in San Francisco.
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I have always heard and read about how The Villages has a great flood control system where, in the event of a hurricane, they can flood the golf courses and save the houses.

Does anyone know the specifics on this? How much rain can they handle before they are overwhelmed? Would they have been able to handle the 18-24 inches that were forecast? Or would many homes have been flooded?
According to a person working at Belle Glade, when Irma came through she dropped 18 inches of rain in that area. The system worked and there was no flooding in the residential areas. The golf courses were flooded. The sprinkler system on the golf course was turned on to reduce the levels of water in the ponds/lakes and ran continuously for 26 hours. I had a house in LaBelle South at the time and there was no flood or wind damage to any of the houses in our neighborhood that I am aware of.

There was some good drone footage of Evans Prairie where the cart path seemed to go into the water and come out the other side about 100 yards away. Much better than seeing that running through our streets and houses.

As is all too familiar, there were those who found a reason to complain and wanted a refund of some of their amenity fee because the could not play some or all of a certain golf courses for two or three weeks. Meanwhile, in Puerto Rico, people had no power for months.
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A 100 year storm is a civil engineering thing. Basically means there’s a 1% that a storm (1/100) that size will happen. It is possible for a 100 year storm to happen two years in a row - but the chances are low.
The goal of water management is to keep the water out of the houses, it needs to go someplace, it will go to the golf courses, the tunnels, etc.

My understanding is that very few homes had water intrusion with Irma.
You are correct with the addition that a 100 year storm means that there is a 1% chance of it happening "in a given year". It should be noted that Ian was a 1000 year storm meaning there was a 1/10 of a percent chance of it happening in a given year. It's an also be noted that so far in the United States there has been five 1000 year storms. So much for statistics.
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Appears that you received a lot of "professional" answers on your question. Just wondering how many from engineers that knew or knows the original design parameters and design for various areas of Villages. Same for up grades. My bet not one. Opinions aren't facts and just because you read it on the internet doesn't make it correct. Verify your sources.
The presenter in this video is a professional who helped design and manage our water systems in the Villages. I know because I am on the NSCUDD board that works with this very knowledgeable consultant, Mr. Arnett.

You are always invited to attend one of our board meetings to ask questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VWL2iYzY-o


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The historic section did have flooding issues during Irma
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I saw a article that said there was alot of rain 30 days before IRMA saturating the ground then it got the 10-15 inches
That is what was said in the presentation. The man who gave the presentation said The Villages had unprecedented conditions with the 30" of rain the previous two months before Irma hit. Our storm water management system handled the rainfall from Irma better than the engineers expected.
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Appears that you received a lot of "professional" answers on your question. Just wondering how many from engineers that knew or knows the original design parameters and design for various areas of Villages. Same for up grades. My bet not one. Opinions aren't facts and just because you read it on the internet doesn't make it correct. Verify your sources.
My comments are taken from the presentation that was given after Irma. Have you watched the video that was posted bytwoplanekid? I believe the guy giving the presentation is a storm water management professional.
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The historic section did have flooding issues during Irma
The storm water management system is not the same as what we have south of 466.
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I have always heard and read about how The Villages has a great flood control system where, in the event of a hurricane, they can flood the golf courses and save the houses.

Does anyone know the specifics on this? How much rain can they handle before they are overwhelmed? Would they have been able to handle the 18-24 inches that were forecast? Or would many homes have been flooded?
What did they (from a reliable source) tell you when you called the district office - and save yourself a lot of wasted tim reading all of the replies - time to be a bit more efficient!!
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Appears that you received a lot of "professional" answers on your question. Just wondering how many from engineers that knew or knows the original design parameters and design for various areas of Villages. Same for up grades. My bet not one. Opinions aren't facts and just because you read it on the internet doesn't make it correct. Verify your sources.
Since you didn't read the whole thread before commenting... Here's what the engineer said:
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What did they (from a reliable source) tell you when you called the district office - and save yourself a lot of wasted tim reading all of the replies - time to be a bit more efficient!!
View the video recorded by District staff at a storm water management meeting at the Rohan Rec Center that covers in detail storm management in the Villages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VWL2iYzY-o

If you still have questions or concerns after viewing this video, then attend an NSCUDD board meeting to ask questions. It's as simple as that.

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P.S. If there is enough interest, staff might be willing to have another similar storm water management meeting to cover this same material plus the areas south of 44. I believe that Mr. Arnett would be the speaker again.

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If there is enough interest, staff might be willing to have another similar storm water management meeting to cover this same material plus the areas south of 44. I believe that Mr. Arnett would be the speaker again.
After last week, I am sure that there is enough interest!
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