[Haggar]

Originally Posted by Normal

Native American reservations (Seminoles) will capitalize first, this would be well ahead of statewide commercialization. State licensed stores will have to sell at controlled prices much higher than the “Res” price. Eventually the two markets will compete, but the real smoke screen will be the origin of your marijuana purchase. Consumers overwhelmingly will opt for the best product for the best price. Why shouldn’t they?

Eventually marijuana prices will decrease because of competition with other sources (Native American and others) and the saturation of the market.

Marijuana is already everywhere, so what would be the purpose of repeating Colorado’s Amendment 64 mistake?

Oh boy, we get the toll on its youth like other states are getting. Increased use and high school expulsions for possession. Is that a good thing?

I’m for leaving things just as they are.

Trulieve has spent $93,000,000 on trying to getting Amendment 3 passed. If the driving force behind this is a commercial enterprise selling MJ then it's hard to believe this is a good amendment. A single glass of alcohol can give one a pleasant feeling without being affected. MJ has an immediate effect physically and mentally. What we don't need are more people with diminished capacity in the world.

And we certainly don't need people smoking MJ is an open area where children can inhale it.

[opinionist]

Amendment 4 eliminates parental rights to decide for a child and eliminates all abortion restrictions. Most pro-choice people want some limits. The lawyer-speak is intended to deceive.

[Bill14564]

Please read at least the summary of the amendments before deciding. There are (being nice here) talking points for both sides that may not quite accurately represent the amendments. Read the amendment rather than the opinions and decide what you feel is right.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by dougjb

Marijuana usage does not affect driving capability. This is an urban legend promoted by sheriffs so that they can keep their "bust" records high enough to justify the little work that the police do.

Alcoholics make the same assertion that they can drive drunk just as well as they can do when sober. Marijuana does affect your ability to safely drive a vehicle.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by opinionist

Amendment 4 eliminates parental rights to decide for a child and eliminates all abortion restrictions. Most pro-choice people want some limits. The lawyer-speak is intended to deceive.

Maybe instead of watching anti-choice TV scare ads you might want to actually read the amendment.
Here is the language:
"No law shall prohibit, penalize, delay, or restrict abortion before viability or when necessary to protect the patient’s health, as determined by the patient’s healthcare provider. This amendment does not change the legislature’s constitutional authority to require notification to a parent or guardian before a minor has an abortion."

So this amendment continues the Florida requirements that were in place before Roe was overturned. It does not add any new abortion rights that were not in place in Florida. And there absolutely are limits on abortion just back to exactly what it was before Roe was overturned, viability (the ability of the unborn to survive being outside the womb) ends the right to terminate unless the mother's life is endangered.

For a review see the LWV link above or this summary of the honesty of the ads you are seeing Getting the facts on confusing Florida Amendment 4 abortion ads

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Haggar

Trulieve has spent $93,000,000 on trying to getting Amendment 3 passed. If the driving force behind this is a commercial enterprise selling MJ then it's hard to believe this is a good amendment. A single glass of alcohol can give one a pleasant feeling without being affected. MJ has an immediate effect physically and mentally. What we don't need are more people with diminished capacity in the world.

And we certainly don't need people smoking MJ is an open area where children can inhale it.

It is also easier to conceal. I have seen this happen in other states. Native American Nations jump right on the bandwagon in full force. It’s more lucrative than casinos ever were (of course casinos aren’t as portable for use). The elite growers will be schooled quickly by nations that have already developed a much higher quality herb for distribution. And guess what, bought there, there is no tax.

But hey, we can be the party on state that the dopers drive to. “Let’s take the family to Florida and we can get wasted too.”

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by dougjb

Marijuana usage does not affect driving capability. This is an urban legend promoted by sheriffs so that they can keep their "bust" records high enough to justify the little work that the police do.

Besides, anyone who thinks marijuana use is not already rampant has stuck their head in the sand. Too many of our youth have been arrested for marijuana possession which has broad ramifications for their ability to get a job or enter a profession.

A great majority of our prison population consists of non-violent drug possession cases.Do you really want to continue to have your taxes keep going up so that these "offenders" are off the streets...while so many other "offenders" are using? That makes no sense. We have the largest prison population in the world. It is time to start sorting out the truly dangerous from those whom society simply wants to look down upon.

Have you ever smoked it?

[justjim]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

I am guessing that half of the Voters in Florida go to the Booth having little knowledge of the Amendment process.

1 The amendments are for a change in the Florida State Constitution.
2 It takes a 60 % affirmative to make the change effective.
3 Who proposed the submittal of the Amendment for vote

The change to the constitution can negate the existing laws by superseding them.

New laws cannot override the constitution.

Given the above, are you ready to vote yes.

As an example, there are current laws against drugs. Amendment 3 wants to legalize Marijuana for more than medical uses.

Comments say that can provide an opportunity for new tax revenue, elimination of bad Marijuana etc.

My question is how I do as an elector get any benefit. Do I want a contractor coming to the house with a Marijuana high? What rights do I have if I suspect he is under the influence, but it is legal. Is my auto mechanic high? Can I get money back if they are not performing correctly. Is there a legal limit or test that would apply to users and responsibility. I know that some would say that the same applies to alcoholics. Well two wrongs don't make a right.

There is no current reason to pass this amendment without knowing how the above will be protected.

Quite frankly, all of the amendments have this flaw. They are special interest solutions to problems not well thought out. Why should we enshrine them in our constitution?

Most of us didn’t have this option when we were residents up north. There is something to say about the will of the vast majority of the people. True democracy?

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by JoMar

Have you ever smoked it?

Yes, but I didn't inhale....

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Yes, but I didn't inhale....

In my experience most "seniors" use edibles.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

Do I want a contractor coming to the house with a Marijuana high? What rights do I have if I suspect he is under the influence, but it is legal. Is my auto mechanic high? Can I get money back if they are not performing correctly. Is there a legal limit or test that would apply to users and responsibility.

How do you know if your mechanic is high now? Are you able to drug test your contractors now, prior to letting them lay your flooring?

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by blueash

You know that any contractor that wants to buy weed can get himself a medical card with no problem and no disease if he is willing to pay for it, and he can also buy it easily on the illegal market. So if you're worried about how this changes who might show up high, it does not.

But it does free cops from chasing silly pot infractions and running lives because of possession of small amounts. And it gets money away from drug cartels, and avoids fentanyl contamination in street weed, and puts cash into the state treasury.

Excellent, rational summary.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Yes, but I didn't inhale....

Bill, is that you? Meeting tonight at the Blue Dress Bar in santaMONICA.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JRcorvette

Of more importance is proposition 4 which is Abortion rights. If you see the ads on TV they are Not telling you the entire story in fact they are lying to you. (No they're not! ) If you vote Yes you are opening up the State of Florida to become an Abortion vacation getaway destination.

Good! Let women and their doctors decide what health care is needed. Get government out of health care decisions. Stop government sanctioned religious zealots from subjugating women to their will. Freedom of choice (for all freedom lovers) should be extended to health care.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Good! Let women and their doctors decide what health care is needed. Get government out of health care decisions. Stop government sanctioned religious zealots from subjugating women to their will. Freedom of choice (for all freedom lovers) should be extended to health care.

There we go.............finally got around to the topic of legalizing murder.