[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by JGibson

Speed bumps and cameras with the ability to photograph a moving car.
Easy peasy.

Not if you are crossing in a cart or on a bicycle. Which of the following require a full stop (you may choose more than one)

1) a gate arm where you stop to wave a card
2) a brick wall
3) a speed bump that some go over at 3 mph, others will take at 15.

and then, in the theme of this thread, which is more visible---

1) a red and white reflective gate arm at eye level or
2) a speed bump

When crossing on a MMP, I really don't want to rely on a speed hump to slow drivers down

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Not if you are crossing in a cart or on a bicycle. Which of the following require a full stop (you may choose more than one)

1) a gate arm where you stop to wave a card
2) a brick wall
3) a speed bump that some go over at 3 mph, others will take at 15.

and then, in the theme of this thread, which is more visible---

1) a red and white reflective gate arm at eye level or
2) a speed bump

When crossing on a MMP, I really don't want to rely on a speed hump to slow drivers down

Totally agree.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Laker14

Totally agree.

Nothing better than finding common ground

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

When crossing on a MMP, I really don't want to rely on a speed hump to slow drivers down

Theres a road near my house that has a dozen speed humps.
In my SUV, I don’t need to slow down very much. Maybe from 25 to 20.
In my wife’s sedan, I do need to slow down to 5 or 10MPH.

If you don’t see the arm at eye level, you are NOT going to see a speed hump.

[twoplanekid]

It's interesting to note that District data that I have viewed doesn't tabulate gate hits by whether it's an in or out gate. 50% of the time we go through a gate (out) that opens automatically without needing to use a gate card. Which gate type (auto open or card reader gate ) is having the most gate hit issues and does this hold true for specific types of hits? I believe that we will always have gates as I will always suggest that going through card reader gates by using a device that auto opens the gate is better/easier than flashing a hand held gate card. We can go on and on with this discussion but without good/accurate/complete data it's more of a guessing game which is fun for some.

P.S. Now, if auto open gates have the most troubling issues then maybe we should ....... Be careful what we wish for

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by bonrich

Flatten the gate arms. Instead of tubular shape, make it at least 4" flat arm, larger area to be more visible.

Or use 4” rectangle drain pipe But, that probably cost more?

Or make gate out of pool noodles? Opps, that wouldn’t work minority wouldn’t stop at all, just like when gate down with stop sign. I also love how the put the stop sign back behind guard shack so driver that don’t stop can’t see if cart crossing from left.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Nothing better than finding common ground

pretty rare for the two of us. I'd have a beer but it's too early for me.

[Laker14]

I just made a quick run to Publix. I exited Bailey Trail eastbound, at Sea Breeze, onto Buena Vista southbound. Two cars behind me went through the gate exiting, without allowing the gate to even start to come down. One car right on my tail, the other car right on its tail.
I would give myself a bit more room. I want to see the gate at least start to come down, change it's mind, then go back up. Otherwise we're just looking for trouble.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Laker14

I just made a quick run to Publix. I exited Bailey Trail eastbound, at Sea Breeze, onto Buena Vista southbound. Two cars behind me went through the gate exiting, without allowing the gate to even start to come down. One car right on my tail, the other car right on its tail.
I would give myself a bit more room. I want to see the gate at least start to come down, change it's mind, then go back up. Otherwise we're just looking for trouble.

What I've witnessed after 10 years of observation, is that cars that piggyback through an exit get away with it, even 3 or 4 cars. But those that try it at an entrance get up close and personal with the gate arm more times than not. (THIS IS NOT an endorsement to try it when exiting, unless you are a professional driver on a closed course, do not try at home )

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Laker14

pretty rare for the two of us. I'd have a beer but it's too early for me.

I've learned that it's never too early in The Villages----some places start Happy Hour at 10 AM!

And I'd bet we agree on quite a lot, but just realize that when we disagree, I am ALWAYS right

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Laker14

I just made a quick run to Publix. I exited Bailey Trail eastbound, at Sea Breeze, onto Buena Vista southbound. Two cars behind me went through the gate exiting, without allowing the gate to even start to come down. One car right on my tail, the other car right on its tail.
I would give myself a bit more room. I want to see the gate at least start to come down, change it's mind, then go back up. Otherwise we're just looking for trouble.

Some exit gates seem to work this way and others don't. What's worse is some change their minds. The exit from Hillsborough to Buena Vista is usually accommodating - it will stay up as long as cars are exiting. The exit from Hillsborough to Morse used to be this way but sometime in the last year it became more demanding and will now often come down between cars even if they are close.

I don't need to see the gate change its mind, but I give it a respectable second or two to decide what it wants to do before I move under it.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Some exit gates seem to work this way and others don't. What's worse is some change their minds. The exit from Hillsborough to Buena Vista is usually accommodating - it will stay up as long as cars are exiting. The exit from Hillsborough to Morse used to be this way but sometime in the last year it became more demanding and will now often come down between cars even if they are close.

I don't need to see the gate change its mind, but I give it a respectable second or two to decide what it wants to do before I move under it.

Those are the female gates

And I always give it enough time before I get under it

[fdpaq0580]

I use the St Charles south end gate almost every week. The golf cart crossing is very close to the gate. Cars piggy back in and out and carts are backed up waiting and hoping some kind soul will hold up the flow long enough to let a cart ot two get into position to make the next, potentially deadly "Frogger" leap across the lane(s) going the other way.
What to do? What to do?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

I use the St Charles south end gate almost every week. The golf cart crossing is very close to the gate. Cars piggy back in and out and carts are backed up waiting and hoping some kind soul will hold up the flow long enough to let a cart ot two get into position to make the next, potentially deadly "Frogger" leap across the lane(s) going the other way.
What to do? What to do?

That gate crossing is one of the worst. If I'm coming back home from Cane, I usually come down St. Charles rather than the shorter Bailey and cutting through Seabreeze just to avoid a full crossing there. I particularly love it when a car, seeing that there is a back up for entering the RB lets a few carts through, and the person behind him leans on his horn.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

That gate crossing is one of the worst. If I'm coming back home from Cane, I usually come down St. Charles rather than the shorter Bailey and cutting through Seabreeze just to avoid a full crossing there. I particularly love it when a car, seeing that there is a back up for entering the RB lets a few carts through, and the person behind him leans on his horn.

LOL! I'm he guy listening to the horns behind me. Notice the smile on my face as I wave to the cart drivers. "It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. A beautiful day for a neighbor, would you be mine?"