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Old 03-05-2025, 10:46 AM
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Gates are good, especially to help protect golf cart crossings from cars. Cameras are good to help catch crooks and gate crashers.
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Old 03-05-2025, 10:54 AM
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Something needs to slow down all the speeders here in the Villages. Almost every car and golf cart is going well over 20 MPH on residential streets . My golf cart only reaches 19.9 MPH but almost every other golf cart zips on by . I do get behind someone going 12 MPH once in a while. And then these turkeys in a hurry rush by both of us .
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Gates are very useful as they help stagger automobile traffic at busy intersections, where both cars and golf carts are required to commingle. That being said, gates that are controlled by gate attendants are only as useful as the gate attendants awareness and responsiveness to the current traffic situation. Below is a picture of a very long and dangerous golf cart traffic backup at the gate on Morse just north of 466. I took the picture from my golf cart a couple days ago and the picture doesn’t show the true scope of the problem as there are about another 20 golf carts backed up behind me. The absolutely clueless gate attendant had their back turned to the very long golf cart backup behind them and had manually overridden the gates keeping them open, allowing a non-stop flow of auto traffic through so no golf carts could cross to the multi modal path. The situation would have been much safer with no gate attendant, so the passing automobile traffic would have had to use either a gate card or the little red button to open the gate, providing an opportunity for cars and golf carts to alternate through the busy intersection. The gate attendant working when that picture was taken should be fired for creating such a dangerous situation. If a gate attendant can’t be aware of the current traffic situation, and act accordingly to mitigate a risky situation, what good are they?
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Gates are very useful as they help stagger automobile traffic at busy intersections, where both cars and golf carts are required to commingle. That being said, gates that are controlled by gate attendants are only as useful as the gate attendants awareness and responsiveness to the current traffic situation. Below is a picture of a very long and dangerous golf cart traffic backup at the gate on Morse just north of 466. I took the picture from my golf cart a couple days ago and the picture doesn’t show the true scope of the problem as there are about another 20 golf carts backed up behind me. The absolutely clueless gate attendant had their back turned to the very long golf cart backup behind them and had manually overridden the gates keeping them open, allowing a non-stop flow of auto traffic through so no golf carts could cross to the multi modal path. The situation would have been much safer with no gate attendant, so the passing automobile traffic would have had to use either a gate card or the little red button to open the gate, providing an opportunity for cars and golf carts to alternate through the busy intersection. The gate attendant working when that picture was taken should be fired for creating such a dangerous situation. If a gate attendant can’t be aware of the current traffic situation, and act accordingly to mitigate a risky situation, what good are they?
What a mess.
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What a mess.
Like 40 lbs of manure in a 10 lbs sack. Too many people causes too much crowding, causing too much stress, too much anxiety, causing too much frustration, causing too much anger, causing aggressive behavior, causing confrontation, causing..... Well, I think most can see where this is going.
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Gates are very useful as they help stagger automobile traffic at busy intersections, where both cars and golf carts are required to commingle. That being said, gates that are controlled by gate attendants are only as useful as the gate attendants awareness and responsiveness to the current traffic situation. Below is a picture of a very long and dangerous golf cart traffic backup at the gate on Morse just north of 466. I took the picture from my golf cart a couple days ago and the picture doesn’t show the true scope of the problem as there are about another 20 golf carts backed up behind me. The absolutely clueless gate attendant had their back turned to the very long golf cart backup behind them and had manually overridden the gates keeping them open, allowing a non-stop flow of auto traffic through so no golf carts could cross to the multi modal path. The situation would have been much safer with no gate attendant, so the passing automobile traffic would have had to use either a gate card or the little red button to open the gate, providing an opportunity for cars and golf carts to alternate through the busy intersection. The gate attendant working when that picture was taken should be fired for creating such a dangerous situation. If a gate attendant can’t be aware of the current traffic situation, and act accordingly to mitigate a risky situation, what good are they?
Glad I don't live up there and rarely travel on that road.
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Gates are very useful as they help stagger automobile traffic at busy intersections, where both cars and golf carts are required to commingle. That being said, gates that are controlled by gate attendants are only as useful as the gate attendants awareness and responsiveness to the current traffic situation. Below is a picture of a very long and dangerous golf cart traffic backup at the gate on Morse just north of 466. I took the picture from my golf cart a couple days ago and the picture doesn’t show the true scope of the problem as there are about another 20 golf carts backed up behind me. The absolutely clueless gate attendant had their back turned to the very long golf cart backup behind them and had manually overridden the gates keeping them open, allowing a non-stop flow of auto traffic through so no golf carts could cross to the multi modal path. The situation would have been much safer with no gate attendant, so the passing automobile traffic would have had to use either a gate card or the little red button to open the gate, providing an opportunity for cars and golf carts to alternate through the busy intersection. The gate attendant working when that picture was taken should be fired for creating such a dangerous situation. If a gate attendant can’t be aware of the current traffic situation, and act accordingly to mitigate a risky situation, what good are they?
If you haven't already, you might send a note to customer service and/or community watch to make them aware of the situation. I have done this a couple of times for a similar issue at a different gate and it seemed to make a difference... at least for a little while.
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Gates are very useful as they help stagger automobile traffic at busy intersections, where both cars and golf carts are required to commingle. That being said, gates that are controlled by gate attendants are only as useful as the gate attendants awareness and responsiveness to the current traffic situation. Below is a picture of a very long and dangerous golf cart traffic backup at the gate on Morse just north of 466. I took the picture from my golf cart a couple days ago and the picture doesn’t show the true scope of the problem as there are about another 20 golf carts backed up behind me. The absolutely clueless gate attendant had their back turned to the very long golf cart backup behind them and had manually overridden the gates keeping them open, allowing a non-stop flow of auto traffic through so no golf carts could cross to the multi modal path. The situation would have been much safer with no gate attendant, so the passing automobile traffic would have had to use either a gate card or the little red button to open the gate, providing an opportunity for cars and golf carts to alternate through the busy intersection. The gate attendant working when that picture was taken should be fired for creating such a dangerous situation. If a gate attendant can’t be aware of the current traffic situation, and act accordingly to mitigate a risky situation, what good are they?
Maybe it was open for a funeral procession? Evacuation?
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Maybe it was open for a funeral procession? Evacuation?
Just trying to help.
When was the last time one watched a funeral procession anywhere in TV.

That cart crossing back up was just as bad in 2012 when we looked at couple houses in that exact area. We liked the golf view, but watching the cart frogger crossing for 5 minutes, we didn’t think we had enough life insurance, to buy a home there. Much less have our parents live there and try to cross
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When was the last time one watched a funeral procession anywhere in TV.

That cart crossing back up was just as bad in 2012 when we looked at couple houses in that exact area. We liked the golf view, but watching the cart frogger crossing for 5 minutes, we didn’t think we had enough life insurance, to buy a home there. Much less have our parents live there and try to cross
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It always intrigued me to hear people whine and complain about the gates after moving into the villages. Did the villages install them after people purchased their home? Were they there when they were looking at homes? Do the gates suddenly move slower since people bought here. Sorry. I don't get it.
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Was the above picture simply normal traffic backup or was this a cart parade? The latter would not be considered normal traffic and the poor attendant did owe a welcome home wave to everyone entering so that may have been the hold up ?
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Maybe it was open for a funeral procession? Evacuation?
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Was the above picture simply normal traffic backup or was this a cart parade? The latter would not be considered normal traffic and the poor attendant did owe a welcome home wave to everyone entering so that may have been the hold up ?
None of the above, just a typical Monday afternoon about 2:30 PM heading south on Morse going toward Lake Sumter Landing. The golf cart backup was unusually long because the gate attendant was absolutely clueless and not doing their job. It’s beyond logic why the attendant manually overrode the gates and had them both open while waiving cars through so tightly that no golf carts could cross the intersection. The attendant made absolutely no effort to turn their head around and see the huge backup he/she was causing. Fortunately, some guy in a pickup truck observed the backup and stopped in front of the crossover, blocking auto traffic behind him, and waived a bunch of golf carts through which at least shorten the backup.
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Was the above picture simply normal traffic backup or was this a cart parade? The latter would not be considered normal traffic and the poor attendant did owe a welcome home wave to everyone entering so that may have been the hold up ?
Gatekeepers there are required to be at least 85 years old and often can let 2 vehicles pass for every vehicle using a card.
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I was told that the "gate keepers" are only to be concerned with the traffic flow of vehicles in the gate lanes and not the golf carts. If there was no gate person, cars will back up across 466, which they sometimes do anyway. Certain times of day I use Buena Vista . A little longer, but how scary is the Sumter bridge on a weekend afternoon when renters don't know what lane to veer"in and out" of!!!!!
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