[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by DonH57

It always intrigued me to hear people whine and complain about the gates after moving into the villages. Did the villages install them after people purchased their home? Were they there when they were looking at homes? Do the gates suddenly move slower since people bought here. Sorry. I don't get it.

After buying here, entitlement sets in. Gate guards should know us and open the gate before we have to use our cards. Everyone should drive at our pace and stay out of our way and give way to us. What ever our mode of travel, we have the right-of-way. We can park anywhere and in any manner we choose. And we can take our pets to use any yard to pee and poo on and rake up the grass with their claws. We are "Villagers"! We are entitled!

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

None of the above, just a typical Monday afternoon about 2:30 PM heading south on Morse going toward Lake Sumter Landing. The golf cart backup was unusually long because the gate attendant was absolutely clueless and not doing their job. It’s beyond logic why the attendant manually overrode the gates and had them both open while waiving cars through so tightly that no golf carts could cross the intersection. The attendant made absolutely no effort to turn their head around and see the huge backup he/she was causing. Fortunately, some guy in a pickup truck observed the backup and stopped in front of the crossover, blocking auto traffic behind him, and waived a bunch of golf carts through which at least shorten the backup.

It was my understanding that cars always have the right of way over golf carts. If that is true, I'm not sure why you think they should have gate-stopped vehicular traffic to allow golf carts to cross.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

It was my understanding that cars always have the right of way over golf carts. If that is true, I'm not sure why you think they should have gate-stopped vehicular traffic to allow golf carts to cross.

Perhaps because this is a golf cart community, the gates serve to slows down or separate the cars to make crossing safer, and if something isn’t done then someone will get hurt.

There’s a difference between stopping cars for minutes to allow carts to cross and allowing the gates to come down between vehicles to serve their purpose.

At this point, perhaps removing the attendant and relying on the readers and red buttons is the right way to go.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Perhaps because this is a golf cart community, the gates serve to slows down or separate the cars to make crossing safer, and if something isn’t done then someone will get hurt.

There’s a difference between stopping cars for minutes to allow carts to cross and allowing the gates to come down between vehicles to serve their purpose.

At this point, perhaps removing the attendant and relying on the readers and red buttons is the right way to go.

Correct, and to verify the point, right after the gate is a sign that says you are in a golf cart community.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

It was my understanding that cars always have the right of way over golf carts. If that is true, I'm not sure why you think they should have gate-stopped vehicular traffic to allow golf carts to cross.

Ur understanding is not correct.
Couple examples:
a) In a residental neighborhood, speed limit is 25 mph, no "cart lane"......golf cart and car have the same rights.
b) Cart in cart path going straight, car wants to turn right in front of cart, car must yield.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by CarlR33

You forgot to add the gate cards to the discussion, LOL. I do not see the good of spending money on the gate guard (person), the card access thing and so on. Yes, in some places they stop the speed demons against the speeding golf carts at those dangerous intersections, supposedly. The security cameras should (in theory) take care of the above if monitored from an operations center by the same people with access to the gate arms (being replaced often, LOL)?
Do we really need Gate Cards?

There are two lanes for many gated entries; a visitor's and a resident's lane. Each lane has a gate. Visitors enter to the left, residents to the right. Sometimes they switch it up but that's what the paintmark indicates on the road as you approach the gate, so most people will comply.

The problem lies when a car arrives at the gate to their lane at the same time. If the person on the right wants to turn left on a side-street after the gate, OR the person on the left wants to turn right on a side-street after the gate, OR the two lanes merge into one after the gate, SOMETHING has to happen to ensure that the two cars don't collide when their gates go up.

And so - gate guards, and gate passes.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by DonH57

It always intrigued me to hear people whine and complain about the gates after moving into the villages. Did the villages install them after people purchased their home? Were they there when they were looking at homes? Do the gates suddenly move slower since people bought here. Sorry. I don't get it.

No idea. I've been here for six years and the concept of gates, gate guards, gate cards, red buttons - is fine by me. I think it works great to pace traffic, and having gate guards at strategic gates also helps assure brand new visitors that they're going in the right direction (or helps them turn around if they're not).

[shaw8700@outlook.com]

We’re 100% in favor of the gates/attendants. We go out a lot in our golf cart and the gates allow us to proceed in the neighborhood entry points.

[Kelevision]

Originally Posted by skarra

Can someone please summarize the pros and cons of the gates and most importantly the security cameras?

I believe the cameras are only there to record license plates which seems a good security feature - of course there will be those that have privacy concerns.

I would love to hear everyone's opinions - are the cameras good or evil?

I just got a speeding ticket in the mail from a camera in Leesburg on a small street for going 35 in a 25. They sent me 2 different angles of my car. Cameras are literally everywhere.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Gates and cameras = good.

On another note, how about cameras monitoring the entrances at RBs? That would be an eye opener. 😃😬😲

That could be a great idea but even cover the entire roundabout. But then who pays for the cameras and repair. The county who owns the roads. Then there would be lawyer requests for video for evidence in M$ civil suits. Maybe that decision might backfire.

Regarding gate cameras you do get info of who enters and leaves and times. Could possibly serve value of discouraging some amateur bad guys. Every thing I have heard has been that it IDs those who damage gates.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

It was my understanding that cars always have the right of way over golf carts. If that is true, I'm not sure why you think they should have gate-stopped vehicular traffic to allow golf carts to cross.

OK, let’s assume that’s correct. Then why the hell do the gates exist besides slowing down cars enough to snap a picture of the license plate?

[J1ceasar]

Somebody with al the stolen car and a face mask

[J1ceasar]

Supposedly tavaris raised $2 million dollars the first month, there were speed cameras now at every school zone.

I bet nobody will speed anymore after they get their ticket

Originally Posted by Kelevision

I just got a speeding ticket in the mail from a camera in Leesburg on a small street for going 35 in a 25. They sent me 2 different angles of my car. Cameras are literally everywhere.

[Jerry F2]

You are allowed (first amendment) to take pictures or film anything you can see with your eyes, from common ground like a sidewalk.
Looking on Utube / internet you will see people trying to stop or call the police on someone taking pictures outside their store, church or business. If you are out in public there is no expectation of privacy from anyone with a camera. As long as that person is not on your property, they are free, in this free country to film anything and anyone.

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by skarra

Can someone please summarize the pros and cons of the gates and most importantly the security cameras?

I believe the cameras are only there to record license plates which seems a good security feature - of course there will be those that have privacy concerns.

I would love to hear everyone's opinions - are the cameras good or evil?

What we need is machines that automatically give speeding tickets to speeders on Morse and Buena Vista. These are found in many cities around the world.