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Old 10-16-2023, 11:32 AM
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Your cart can actually go 28????? The bad news: the applicable law is somewhat stupid in my opinion---you could be driving at 15, but if the cart is capable of exceeding 20 you could be cited for an unregistered vehicle. Why is that stupid? My convertible is capale of going 140---should I get a ticket when I drive 29 in a 30 zone because of its "capability"?
Generally stating if it could go 28 I wouldn't be ignorant enough to test it. In the 11 years I've lived here I've never heard of random no notice checking of golf cart speed let alone other enforcement.
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Old 10-16-2023, 11:44 AM
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Generally stating if it could go 28 I wouldn't be ignorant enough to test it. In the 11 years I've lived here I've never heard of random no notice checking of golf cart speed let alone other enforcement.
Neither have I. But in the case of an accident, or an unrelated infraction such as rolling through a stop sign, it is possible. I just think that law needs to be changed. A knife or a gun is not a murder weapon until it is used to kill someone. My car is not speeding until I exceed 70 on an interstate. My grocery bag is not a meal until I cook it. So why did they pass a law that makes one guilty even if they did not exceed the cart limit of 20???? Because they might???? Kind of reminds me of the movie "Minority Report". It's not even guilty until proven innocent, it's guilty before a violation is even committed.
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Old 10-16-2023, 01:21 PM
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I don't see anywhere in my golf cart insurance that says anything about 20MPH.
It won't say that because if you own(buy) a golf cart it legally CANNOT BE DELIVERED to you CAPABLE of EXCEEDING 20mph. So if you insure a GC that is CAPABLE of EXCEEDING 20mph it is NOT a golf cart and you not only do not have a golf cart but you gave false information to your insurance agent.

Yea, I'd bet the vast majority do go over 20mph even being set at 22mph max by the dealer or DIY as mine does but that isn't the point. The legal definition of a GC is that it CANNOT be built to EXCEED 20MPH and that is in B&W all over the place and the dealers know it.

The constant misinformation posted here hundreds of times is that there is a 20MPH SPEED LIMIT for golf carts which would incorrectly mean that if you never go over 20MPH you are legal. That is NOT the case. The 20MPH is a manufacturing limitation. Carts being imported into the country must have legal documentation of their speed limitation, else they would be considered LSVs and be taxed and dutied and registered as cars.

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General Federal Law for Golf Carts:

Under current NHTSA interpretations and regulations, so long as golf cars and other similar vehicles are incapable of exceeding 20 miles per hour, they are subject to only state and local requirements regarding safety equipment.

However, if these vehicles are originally manufactured so that they can go faster than 20 miles per hour, they are treated as motor vehicles under Federal law.


The standard requires low-speed vehicles to be equipped with headlamps, stop lamps, turn signal lamps, taillamps, reflex reflectors, parking brakes, rear view mirrors, windshields, seat belts, and vehicle identification numbers.

The above Quoted from (and found in MANY other places including FLorida MV laws): Five Star Golf Carts

FL STATE INFO: https://www.flhsmv.gov/pdf/mv/lowspeedvehicles.pdf
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Old 10-16-2023, 01:49 PM
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Read this some where today:

A Villager was transported by ambulance to UF Health-Leesburg Hospital after a three-car crash near Pinellas Plaza.

Denise Carolyn Costa, 74, of the Village of DeLuna, was driving a white 2022 Subaru Legacy four-door at 11:50 a.m. Thursday westbound on County Road 466A when she attempted a left hand-turn at Pinellas Place, according to an accident report from the Wildwood Police Department. A witness told police that Costa had a flashing yellow light while eastbound traffic on County Road 466A had a steady green light.

Costa turned in front of a gray 2014 Ford Edge driven by 82-year-old Elizabeth Keen Meyer of the Village of Fenney, who had been eastbound. The front of Meyer’s vehicle struck Costa’s vehicle which rotated and was hit by a white 2020 Chevy Silverado pickup driven by 17-year-old Chris Ivan Guerrero-Ortega of Summerfield.

The other two drivers escaped injury. All three vehicles were towed from the scene. No tickets were issued.
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Read this some where today:

A Villager was transported by ambulance to UF Health-Leesburg Hospital after a three-car crash near Pinellas Plaza.

Denise Carolyn Costa, 74, of the Village of DeLuna, was driving a white 2022 Subaru Legacy four-door at 11:50 a.m. Thursday westbound on County Road 466A when she attempted a left hand-turn at Pinellas Place, according to an accident report from the Wildwood Police Department. A witness told police that Costa had a flashing yellow light while eastbound traffic on County Road 466A had a steady green light.

Costa turned in front of a gray 2014 Ford Edge driven by 82-year-old Elizabeth Keen Meyer of the Village of Fenney, who had been eastbound. The front of Meyer’s vehicle struck Costa’s vehicle which rotated and was hit by a white 2020 Chevy Silverado pickup driven by 17-year-old Chris Ivan Guerrero-Ortega of Summerfield.

The other two drivers escaped injury. All three vehicles were towed from the scene. No tickets were issued.
And???? Somebody with less than adequate driving skills turned right in front of an oncoming vehicle at an intersection with absolutely no visibility problems. I hope everyone is OK, but let's not turn this into a soapbox to advocate for dedicated red turn arrows at every intersection. Some intersections need it, some don't
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Old 10-16-2023, 02:01 PM
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And????
Jus an example of how poop happens and you have to be out of your mind to cross 466a in a golf cart.
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Jus an example of how poop happens and you have to be out of your mind to cross 466a in a golf cart.
That's easy to agree with
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Jus an example of how poop happens and you have to be out of your mind to cross 466a in a golf cart.
AGREE.
I live near the intersection, go to Lowes and LOVE Jersey Mikes.

I would never cross 466A in my golf cart (I also always look for an excuse to take the gold car). I would Uber eats a Jersey Mike if I didn’t have my car.

I would bet MOST fatal golf car crashes involve automobile vs golf car -
not golf car vs tree or golf car vs golf car
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AGREE.
I live near the intersection, go to Lowes and LOVE Jersey Mikes.

I would never cross 466A in my golf cart (I also always look for an excuse to take the gold car). I would Uber eats a Jersey Mike if I didn’t have my car.

I would bet MOST fatal golf car crashes involve automobile vs golf car -
not golf car vs tree or golf car vs golf car
I just go over the golf cart bridge when I want to go to Jersey Mike's on 441. Gotta love the Historic Section, you can take the cart almost anywhere. If I want to go to Best Buy or Ulta I just park at Petco and walk across Rolling Acres where there are high curb-barriers in the middle of the road, and walk down to those other strip-malls. If you're paying attention and are capable of ramping up into a slow jog, it's not dangerous. But you do have to pay attention, and you do have to be able to jog those 10 steps.
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I just go over the golf cart bridge when I want to go to Jersey Mike's on 441. Gotta love the Historic Section, you can take the cart almost anywhere. If I want to go to Best Buy or Ulta I just park at Petco and walk across Rolling Acres where there are high curb-barriers in the middle of the road, and walk down to those other strip-malls. If you're paying attention and are capable of ramping up into a slow jog, it's not dangerous. But you do have to pay attention, and you do have to be able to jog those 10 steps.
Or, as I just witnessed yesterday as I was going to Home Depot, a regular cart (not street legal even), with a 30 something couple in it, turned off 441/27 South and onto Rolling Acres, then turned in front of traffic into the Best Buy plaza. Makes crossing 466A a cake walk
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Since 466A is a county road that approval would need to come from Sumter County. Perhaps the Wildwood Police are not enforcing the law as it is written. The correct people to contact regarding the legality of crossing there on a golf cart would be Sumter County to see if they have provided a waiver for that area of 466A.

https://www.wildwood-fl.gov/sites/de...ion_12-155.pdf
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Or, as I just witnessed yesterday as I was going to Home Depot, a regular cart (not street legal even), with a 30 something couple in it, turned off 441/27 South and onto Rolling Acres, then turned in front of traffic into the Best Buy plaza. Makes crossing 466A a cake walk
Almost every time I'm in the area I witness non registered golf carts cross Bella Cruz Dr at the intersection on 441 by the Sharon Morse Bldg.
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If a bicycle can cross 466a at Pinellas on the light then so should a golf cart…
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If a bicycle can cross 466a at Pinellas on the light then so should a golf cart…
Given that "logic"........a golf cart can cross 466a at Morse.
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Personally with the option of a tunnel under 466a or at Colony with access to MMP I wouldn’t, also the speed limit on Morse. Over the years the novelty of driving a golf cart for trips has worn off only use cart on golf days.
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