[CarGuys]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

So they pull over a 14 year old kid and ask him for an I.D. and he says he doesn't have one. What's next? Are they going to take him into custody?

Have stated this before. Made the mistake years ago in Fort Wilderness Disney of letting my 12 year old daughter drive the cart in the campgrounds.

Park Ranger took our cart and told us to vacate the campground asap. No refund no argument.

Lesson learned that day.

Yesterday at 30 mph in our car was passed by a cart on the right . Followed behind him clocked him at 34 mph on the flat. That Yamaha engine was screaming for mercy.

You will never stop the governor tampering. It's a lost cause.

[2 Oldcrabs]

Yesterday at 30 mph in our car was passed by a cart on the right . Followed behind him clocked him at 34 mph on the flat. That Yamaha engine was screaming for mercy.

You will never stop the governor tampering. It's a lost cause.[/QUOTE]

Very true! But if they cause an accident with injuries, maybe you can sue them to the point they will only be able to live in section 8 housing!

[GatorFan]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

So they pull over a 14 year old kid and ask him for an I.D. and he says he doesn't have one. What's next? Are they going to take him into custody?

They will issue a Florida drivers license, give ticket, then suspend license. When the 14 year old gets older and goes to get license, surprise, they start off with a ticket on their record which will increase the already high insurance premium they will have to pay.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by pooh

No, not taken into custody, but could have a problem getting a license in his/her home state when of age.

How would they know who he is? Is he obligated, under the law, to tell them his name?

How could they expect a 14 year old to know and understand the traffic laws when he hasn't been asked to study for or pass a test?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Here's another interesting question. I ran into a woman who is legally blind. She has had her license taken away so now she uses her golf cart to get around the Villages.
Is she breaking any laws?

[Chuckw]

Originally Posted by Disneychix

I agree. I wish they could post 20 miles an hour signs on the golf cart paths to remind drivers that this is the speed limit. I drive to work on Morse Blvd everyday and someone always passes me and nearly cuts in before another cart is heading toward them or they almost hit the green belt in the middle of the path. I have to nearly stop or pull over to allow them to cut me off and not cause an accident. One morning a cart was gassing it back and forth behind me so I pulled over to allow them to pass me and they had the nerve to stop and ask me if I was okay. I said I was fine but I truly felt like telling them what I thought. Many times I've thought that if you can't beat them join them...maybe I'll have my cart speed adjusted to a higher speed but when does it end. When someone gets hurt or killed !!!

I don't believe that speed limit signs would do much good. Those of us with golf carts that are stock can't go much over 20 mph (19.8 limit) and those going a lot over that knew what the limit was when they paid a couple of hundred bucks to have their cart modified so that it would exceed that; they don't seem to care and those who do care need no reminder.

[buggyone]

Some of the "jailhouse lawyers" who are asking the "what if.." questions should know that the fines are hefty for speeding on the public roads in your golf cart.

The 14 year old kid driving a speeding cart will be taken back to Gramp's house and Gramps will be read the riot act by the police, I am sure, as to how dangerously that Junior was driving. Gramps would be liable for any personal liability in case of an accident and may lose everything he worked all his life to afford.

As far as the legally blind lady driving her golf cart, no laws are being broken - but would she have golf cart insurance? Probably not - and again, if she caused an accident, the liability may wipe out all she has in the world.

Remember, also, if a cart was speeding along at 35 mph and caused an accident and the owner sued; insurance may not pay off since the driver was breaking the law - and once again, the driver may lose everything he worked for all his life.

[dkrhardy]

This morning as I was leaving Seabreeze, in my SUV, a cart crossed in front of me at the BV exit. He didn't even slow down, just blew through in front of me. As I turned into St. James on St. Charles, he blew that stop sign and cut in front of me from the path onto St. Charles. THEN proceeded to pull straight into the car lane so he could make a left turn onto a side street. I had already learned that this guy had no regard for signs or driving etiquette, so I was giving him a fairly wide berth. But, if I had hit him there is no doubt in my mind that I would have been the guilty party. I'm new here and learning fast.
Don

[paulandjean]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Some of the "jailhouse lawyers" who are asking the "what if.." questions should know that the fines are hefty for speeding on the public roads in your golf cart.

The 14 year old kid driving a speeding cart will be taken back to Gramp's house and Gramps will be read the riot act by the police, I am sure, as to how dangerously that Junior was driving. Gramps would be liable for any personal liability in case of an accident and may lose everything he worked all his life to afford.

As far as the legally blind lady driving her golf cart, no laws are being broken - but would she have golf cart insurance? Probably not - and again, if she caused an accident, the liability may wipe out all she has in the world.

Remember, also, if a cart was speeding along at 35 mph and caused an accident and the owner sued; insurance may not pay off since the driver was breaking the law - and once again, the driver may lose everything he worked for all his life.

Not sure if Gramps would be read the riot act by the police.Think they are more professional than that.

[NotGolfer]

For all the newbies who are just coming here...be prepared to drive defensively ALWAYS!! Especially now as the snowbirds start coming back and the population increases etc. Folks just don't pay attention here AND then there's folks who don't think the rules apply to them. Just don't speed and take chances and watch out for the other guy...always!!

[downeaster]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Remember, also, if a cart was speeding along at 35 mph and caused an accident and the owner sued; insurance may not pay off since the driver was breaking the law - and once again, the driver may lose everything he worked for all his life.

Please excuse my editing, buggyone. I wanted to support your comments.

Not only breaking the law but falsifying an application for insurance. A golf cart is no longer a golf cart if it is capable of exceeding 20MPH. Nor is it a (an?) LSV as it is not properly equipped. LSV owners pay premiums in amounts almost equal to auto insurance while golf cart insurance is much less. With all of the accidents now occurring, and being publicized, it won't take long for the insurance companies to start denying claims.

For those who may be unfamiliar with the law, read on.

"320.01 Definitions, general.--As used in the Florida Statutes, except as otherwise provided, the term:
(22) "Golf cart" means a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour."

My highlighting.

Local law enforcement might not be too concerned about enforcing the law but insurance companies are not shy about applying the terms of the contract.

[buzzy]

I am sure that a lot of people from other states are alarmed by the bad drivers in The Villages. However, this is not unique to TV. It's common in Florida, especially in crowded neighborhoods along the coast, and seasonal vacation areas. Maybe also a higher risk in golf cart communities.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by buzzy

I am sure that a lot of people from other states are alarmed by the bad drivers in The Villages.

Works both ways. I'm sure drivers in TV are alarmed by the drivers from other states that are here either visiting or newly moved. Watch them on the curves. You'd think it was a Formula 1 race. Yield? Never! Stop? Not if I can get away with it!

To be fair, I came from an area where aggressive driving was the norm. People on the freeways would cut anyone off to gain a car length. While I wasn't that aggressive, I still tended to drive fast. I would figure the last minute I could leave and still get to work on time. It took a few months here to ratchet that down and drive more serenely. I'm much better now, thanks for asking.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by buzzy

I am sure that a lot of people from other states are alarmed by the bad drivers in The Villages. However, this is not unique to TV. It's common in Florida, especially in crowded neighborhoods along the coast, and seasonal vacation areas. Maybe also a higher risk in golf cart communities.

What other states are there no bad drivers?

[logdog]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

What other states are there no bad drivers?

State of Denial.