Originally Posted by Two Bills

“It’s the natural progression and how we do things in The Villages,” said Deputy District Manager Carrie Duckett.
Does that mean, " We unload anything not making us a profit, and is a chain round our neck"




"Beware of Greeks bearing gifts!"

So is this move similar to the permanant closing of the Brownwood theater? Developer just says to heck with what the homeowners were sold or want?

Erroll Estates in Apopka, FL was a beautiful golf course community that was shut down and left to become a forest of tall weeds. Homeowners sold on golf course living were sol. Like it or leave it.

T V Developer has free range to do as he pleases and T V fails to represent. Before moving here I wondered if T V courses would ever have the same failed ghost town effect at the expense of the homeowners, forsed to pay up or live in a weed jungle.

Based on the Brownwood theater and T V complacency, I would say the ship has sailed. The 1000 employees will just adapt and residents will just suck it up butter-cup on any cons to the Developer bailing.

[ROCKETMAN]

Many golf course workers do this for the half off golf benefit. If they don’t keep this benefit there will be lots of job openings in starters, ambassadors and inside workers at country clubs. There are more questions than answers as to the expenses involved.

[Jazzman]

Originally Posted by drcar

Interesting how residents jump to their own conclusions. The Villages will still own the courses, AND will STILL make the profit. They are just turning over the staffing duties to the Districts.

Who will then be responsible for the cost of those employees. So where does the money come from to pay that cost, if The Villages aka developer still owns the courses?

[drcar]

"The Sky is Falling", "The Sky is Falling!"

So many opinions stated here without the facts:
Fact: The Villages will STILL own the courses.
Fact: The employees will still receive golf benefits, i.e. 1/2 price golf
Fact: The Villages will determine the fee for golf, and enhancements (priority)
Fact: The Villages will cover the salaries of the employees
Fact: The Villages is staying in the business of golf, in FACT major expansion of golf
Fact: Golf is GROWING in the Villages, unlike the film business, i.e. The Brownwood Movie Theater
Fact: The "Developer bailing" is NOT true!!
Fact: The employees are getting offered more benefits, and a bigger pay check, per hour increase!

There will be a long list of Villages haters who will state opinions, without the FACTS

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by drcar

"The Sky is Falling", "The Sky is Falling!"

So many opinions stated here without the facts:
Fact: The Villages will STILL own the courses.
Fact: The employees will still receive golf benefits, i.e. 1/2 price golf
Fact: The Villages will determine the fee for golf, and enhancements (priority)
Fact: The Villages will cover the salaries of the employees
Fact: The Villages is staying in the business of golf, in FACT major expansion of golf
Fact: Golf is GROWING in the Villages, unlike the film business, i.e. The Brownwood Movie Theater
Fact: The "Developer bailing" is NOT true!!
Fact: The employees are getting offered more benefits, and a bigger pay check, per hour increase!

There will be a long list of Villages haters who will state opinions, without the FACTS

Well said. You need to add "Fact:" in front of your last sentence.

[Marathon Man]

There is obviously a contract that determines exactly how all this will happen. Can someone point out the part of the contract that they find objectionable, please. I would like to understand the problem.

[UpNorth]

Golf ambassadors and gate watchers. Two jobs, if eliminated, would hardly be noticed. Spend the money to improve course conditions or plant more flowers.

[Rainger99]

I am still confused.

Who owns the executive courses?

Who pays the employees?

Who owns the championship courses?

Who pays the employees?

I found this online.

While the Country Clubs are owned and operated by the developer of The Villages, the Executive Golf Trail courses are owned and operated by the Village Center Community Development District and the Sumter Landing Community Development District.

Who controls the Village Center Community Development District and the Sumter Landing Community Development District?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by drcar

"The Sky is Falling", "The Sky is Falling!"

So many opinions stated here without the facts:
Fact: The Villages will STILL own the courses.
Fact: The employees will still receive golf benefits, i.e. 1/2 price golf
Fact: The Villages will determine the fee for golf, and enhancements (priority)
Fact: The Villages will cover the salaries of the employees
Fact: The Villages is staying in the business of golf, in FACT major expansion of golf
Fact: Golf is GROWING in the Villages, unlike the film business, i.e. The Brownwood Movie Theater
Fact: The "Developer bailing" is NOT true!!
Fact: The employees are getting offered more benefits, and a bigger pay check, per hour increase!

There will be a long list of Villages haters who will state opinions, without the FACTS

Oh, c'mon. How many times do I have to remind people? DO NOT CONFUSE THE HATERS WITH THE FACTS!

[FredTheHead]

Marathon Man has personally guaranteed that all golf course employees will continue to receive the same discounts on golfing. Good to know that the employees can count on that under their new employer.

[drcar]

Originally Posted by rainger99

i am still confused.

Who owns the executive courses?

Who pays the employees?

Who owns the championship courses?

Who pays the employees?

I found this online.

While the country clubs are owned and operated by the developer of the villages, the executive golf trail courses are owned and operated by the village center community development district and the sumter landing community development district.

Who controls the village center community development district and the sumter landing community development district?

read post #21

[drcar]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Oh, c'mon. How many times do I have to remind people? DO NOT CONFUSE THE HATERS WITH THE FACTS!

As ALWAYS well said!!

[Mrmean58]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

A disaster in the making.

Based on what?

[drcar]

Originally Posted by UpNorth

Golf ambassadors and gate watchers. Two jobs, if eliminated, would hardly be noticed. Spend the money to improve course conditions or plant more flowers.

I think both the Gate Keepers and the Ambassadors would notice. BTW both provide a service that is needed! Until someone walks in the shoes of an employee that does the job.....

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by drcar

I think both the Gate Keepers and the Ambassadors would notice. BTW both provide a service that is needed! Until someone walks in the shoes of an employee that does the job.....

Exactly! To use an extreme example, imagine the gate at 466 and Morse headed northbound without a gate attendant.
And for the 30% of golfers that actually use their sand bottle and don't think it's a urinal, it's nice to have a refill. I just wish they went back to carrying water----it was much better than the water stations, and really helpful especially in the summer.