[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

There is obviously a contract that determines exactly how all this will happen. Can someone point out the part of the contract that they find objectionable, please. I would like to understand the problem.

And the contract will be subject to open records laws.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Arlington2

It will be a complicated and confusing process. Employees of VCCD are government employees. Benefits will change. For instance, employees will not pay SS, but will be able to put money into a tax deferred 401. The VCCD does not match employee contributions to the 401. It is not obvious how a government employee can legally service a private enterprise such as the championship golf courses. It is one thing for a government to contract out work to private companies, but something entirely different for a private company to hire government employees. It is also not obvious how a government employee can legally accept preferential discounts at the country club. I am sure the developer has thought through the process, but I hope the ACC is looking at it with eyes wide open.

Employees pay social security taxes. MOST non-management employees of MOST municipalities nationwide pay social security tax. The VCCDD isn't a normal government. It is a special government, with different standards and criteria than normal municipalities. Regardless, it, like most municipalities, employ people who pay social security taxes out of their paychecks. The Villages Holding company is still footing the bill. It's just going through the VCCDD now as a method of consolidating expenses since so much of the rest of the running of the "public access" of the Villages goes through the VCCDD already.

[JGibson]

Originally Posted by drcar

Sorry, the hand writing on the says "The Villages will pay the districts for the salaries of the staff on the Champ Courses." But you may be correct about the increase in Minimum wage causing an increase of cost, BUT that is not just golf, that will be everything you buy.

Right, the developer will pay the Championship staff but not the executive staff so who is gonna pay that when minimum wage goes up?

I see the executive trail fee going up regardless. Which sucks if you walk most courses during the winter.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by JGibson

Right, the developer will pay the Championship staff but not the executive staff so who is gonna pay that when minimum wage goes up?

I see the executive trail fee going up regardless. Which sucks if you walk most courses during the winter.

There is no trail fee if you walk.

[drcar]

Originally Posted by JGibson

Right, the developer will pay the Championship staff but not the executive staff so who is gonna pay that when minimum wage goes up?

I see the executive trail fee going up regardless. Which sucks if you walk most courses during the winter.

FYI, the District always paid the salaries of the employees on the Exec courses. No change to that!

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Who would rake the traps and fill the divots on the tee boxes if not the Ambassadors?

Don't forget about the ball marks on the greens. Need more than one sand bottle to treat all the divots at the tee boxes at the Execs.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Who would rake the traps and fill the divots on the tee boxes if not the Ambassadors?

In theory that should be the golfers that make the divots and ball marks and play out of the sand traps. In reality a significant percentage of golfers are either totally clueless or simply ignore proper golfing etiquette. The most important jobs of Ambassadors is to keep the pace of play moving (which is rarely done) and to keep people from sneaking onto the courses.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

In theory that should be the golfers that make the divots and ball marks and play out of the sand traps. In reality a significant percentage of golfers are either totally clueless or simply ignore proper golfing etiquette. The most important jobs of Ambassadors is to keep the pace of play moving (which is rarely done) and to keep people from sneaking onto the courses.

Really? I had no idea...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

Don't forget about the ball marks on the greens. Need more than one sand bottle to treat all the divots at the tee boxes at the Execs.

I swear, some people must tee off with a backhoe...

I get that some people are too lazy to go back to their cart, get a sand bottle, walk back to the tee, fill their divot and walk back to their cart...

But how hard is it to grab your club AND the sand bottle when you first walk up to the tee? Set it next to the tee marker, chunk your shot, fill your divot (and your 2nd divot when you take a Mulligan) and walk back to your cart. All in ONE EASY TRIP!

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Really? I had no idea...

I know you get it, but many don’t.

[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

I swear, some people must tee off with a backhoe...

I get that some people are too lazy to go back to their cart, get a sand bottle, walk back to the tee, fill their divot and walk back to their cart...

But how hard is it to grab your club AND the sand bottle when you first walk up to the tee? Set it next to the tee marker, chunk your shot, fill your divot (and your 2nd divot when you take a Mulligan) and walk back to your cart. All in ONE EASY TRIP!

They should bring the sand bottle with them before the shot. They know they are going to make a divot.

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

They should bring the sand bottle with them before the shot. They know they are going to make a divot.

And if you don’t make a divot, use the sand bottle to fix one that another golfer left.

Same with a ball mark on the green. Always repair your ball mark and another one that someone else left.

https://youtu.be/zXbmaBSE9OQ

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

And if you don’t make a divot, use the sand bottle to fix one that another golfer left.

Same with a ball mark on the green. Always repair your ball mark and another one that someone else left.

https://youtu.be/zXbmaBSE9OQ

The best part of doing that is that the golf gods will send good karma in your direction, so I got that going for me : )

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bay Kid

They should bring the sand bottle with them before the shot. They know they are going to make a divot.

Why didn't I think of that?

Oh, wait...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

The best part of doing that is that the golf gods will send good karma in your direction, so I got that going for me : )

Which is nice...