[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by waynet

I do wish the golf courses (championship ) were kept in better condition. The rest of the place is awesome,why not the golf?

I no longer play golf but I do keep up with posts on TOTV about the courses. I remember seeing several complaining about the condition a few months back. Lately I saw a few posts talking about how good the conditions are on some courses.

Unless you have an unlimited budget it is nearly impossible to keep a golf course in tip top shape 365 days a year. Sometimes projects are being done that effect conditions. Weather and all sorts of other thing will effect conditions.

Like I said, I haven't been on them but the conditions seem to ebb and flow. I did read that they hired a new maintenance company so it does seem that they are responding to the complaints.

[Bavarian]

Traffic is bad if you lived the majority of your adult life in a rural area.
No Silverqueen corn all Summer. No Hardshell Blue Crabs all Summer.
But first Summer here and we are adjusting. Planning to return to MD House end of week for awhile to check on things, still no sale. May bring some Silverqueen back.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by redwitch

Pluses have all been said. I will say the biggest plus is the generosity of spirit here. Strangers willing to go out of their way to help others. The abundance of volunteers here.

The biggest minus to me is the inability to hear as many political viewpoints as possible. If the speaker isn't Republican, the town squares are off limit. The smallest venue possible is offered to others -- usually whatever club is usually made available to the club inviting the speaker. I get the feeling that developer would ban these speakers if he could.

Good points. Both the residents of TV and The Developer have shown a generous spirit---time after time. So many good things about this place. I say amen to all that have been mentioned.

Since the Squares are open to the public--in all fairness it should be open to both political parties. Seems right and fair to me. I don't know the "legal" aspects of this issue but discrimination because of political affiliation doesn't seem right to me.

[njbchbum]

The good has all been mentioned. As snowbirds, the one bad aspect of the Villages that we experience on the roadways, in restaurant lines and grocery stores, and even here on TOTV, etc is the disparagement we receive from the full-timers who believe they are entitled to life in the winter season as it is in the off-season.

Many full-timers do welcome us back as the friends we have become - BUT - there are always those who truly resent our seasonal 'flocking'. They care not to appreciate us for paying year-round full-time amentities and other expenses [as well as suppport the businesses] while only using same for three months or so! We learned long ago that the world just needs all kinds of folks to provide us with perspectives.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by justjim

Good points. Both the residents of TV and The Developer have shown a generous spirit---time after time. So many good things about this place. I say amen to all that have been mentioned.

Since the Squares are open to the public--in all fairness it should be open to both political parties. Seems right and fair to me. I don't know the "legal" aspects of this issue but discrimination because of political affiliation doesn't seem right to me.

If I could really CHOOSE, I would say NO political stuff on the squares. THEM or US...lol. We never go to the political gatherings. We just..well, we VOTE.

But, JustJim, I a SURE that it is legal.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

snipped - hijacking

If I had my preference, The Villages would be located closet to a nice beach. We're about two hours away from Clearwater Beach which is the best in the area.

Other than that, I couldn't be happier here.

Wouldn't it be super if the developer designed one of the regional pools to have a sand beach with zero entry points and salt water for residents to enjoy? Wowza!

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by justjim

Good points. Both the residents of TV and The Developer have shown a generous spirit---time after time. So many good things about this place. I say amen to all that have been mentioned.

Since the Squares are open to the public--in all fairness it should be open to both political parties. Seems right and fair to me. I don't know the "legal" aspects of this issue but discrimination because of political affiliation doesn't seem right to me.

The squares are open to the public, but the developer owns the property and therefore can discriminate as much as he wants. His organization still owns all the rec centers south of CR466 (except for Belvedere and Laurel Manor), so speakers must get permission from them to speak.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by janmcn

The squares are open to the public, but the developer owns the property and therefore can discriminate as much as he wants. His organization still owns all the rec centers south of CR466 (except for Belvedere and Laurel Manor), so speakers must get permission from them to speak.

I like that just the way it is. When the developer runs things they are run well, when you turn it over to the populace...stuff happens that isn't as good. You can see that here.

I cringe to ever see the inmates running this asylum.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by janmcn

The squares are open to the public, but the developer owns the property and therefore can discriminate as much as he wants. His organization still owns all the rec centers south of CR466 (except for Belvedere and Laurel Manor), so speakers must get permission from them to speak.

When a property is open to the public, does that not change "things" a bit?

[Wandatime]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

The good has all been mentioned. As snowbirds, the one bad aspect of the Villages that we experience on the roadways, in restaurant lines and grocery stores, and even here on TOTV, etc is the disparagement we receive from the full-timers who believe they are entitled to life in the winter season as it is in the off-season.

Many full-timers do welcome us back as the friends we have become - BUT - there are always those who truly resent our seasonal 'flocking'. They care not to appreciate us for paying year-round full-time amentities and other expenses [as well as suppport the businesses] while only using same for three months or so! We learned long ago that the world just needs all kinds of folks to provide us with perspectives.

When we made our first trip down after purchasing the house, somewhere around October, I overheard two ladies in Bargains and Treasures lamenting the fact that The Villages was soon to be overrun with Snowbirds. They just went on and on and on. Plus they were blocking the aisle. I remember looking at my husband and yes, I'll admit it, rolling my eyes over their silliness. I do believe there is enough room for all of us. Welcome Snowbirds!! More friends I haven't met yet!!

[DruannB]

Some of your descriptions are so poetic, and yet, they all ring true.

[Xavier]

Originally Posted by Bavarian

Traffic is bad if you lived the majority of your adult life in a rural area.
No Silverqueen corn all Summer. No Hardshell Blue Crabs all Summer.
But first Summer here and we are adjusting. Planning to return to MD House end of week for awhile to check on things, still no sale. May bring some Silverqueen back.

Have you tried Fresh Market? The season is pretty much gone now, I would guess, but you never know. In the spring we had plenty. The "Tuesday Deal" was 12 ears for $2.99 (6 for $1.50). The two of us can't eat a dozen!

Xavier

[Xavier]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

The good has all been mentioned. As snowbirds, the one bad aspect of the Villages that we experience on the roadways, in restaurant lines and grocery stores, and even here on TOTV, etc is the disparagement we receive from the full-timers who believe they are entitled to life in the winter season as it is in the off-season.

Many full-timers do welcome us back as the friends we have become - BUT - there are always those who truly resent our seasonal 'flocking'. They care not to appreciate us for paying year-round full-time amentities and other expenses [as well as suppport the businesses] while only using same for three months or so! We learned long ago that the world just needs all kinds of folks to provide us with perspectives.

This is our permanent home, but we do travel for 4 or 5 months each Summer in our motor home. That sort of makes us snowbirds. When I hear someone take off on Snowbirds I simply say, "That would be us." or "Don't go there." The conversation has always stopped at that point. I do the same thing when, although infrequently, others take off on Politics or our President. It really burns my butt when anyone has the unmitigated gall to assume that everyone thinks the same way they do. They expect everyone to join the conversation supporting their communication. I certainly know how to put the brakes on without being nasty. It sort of takes the wind out of their sails. There is way too many good things about The Villages to let this stuff get under your skin.

Xavier

[RErmer]

Originally Posted by DruannB

We were just there and noted many of the things you mentioned. I told my husband it was DisneyWorld for adults. I particularly liked this from you:

A wanting to live attitude, as opposed to being in GOD's waiting room.

Before I visited, I envisioned people with walkers, sitting around, ignored, unloved. That is not what I saw. But those people must be somewhere in TV, right?

About those people with walkers: a lovely lady, mid-80s, recently started to use a walker. She still comes to the morning water aerobics class almost every day, with her walker strapped to the back of her golf cart, and we all help her in and out of the pool. She named her Walker - Johnnie.

Love the caring attitude of almost everyone I meet in TV and am still thrilled to live here after 2 yrs. full-time.

[Vladimir]

Be prepared for aches, pains...and crutches. I should know since in trying to do all those active sporting activities the body sometimes just does not want to cooperate!