[outlaw]

Originally Posted by SALYBOW

Put signs up identifying the villages that don't have signs''.
We live in Buttonwood, one of the biggest villages, and we don;t have a sign which identifies our villages on St Charles. Buttonwood is on both sides of St. Charles and people have trouble finding us. Even residents of Buttonwood can pass by Buttonwood Run after dark, I don't believe Pennecamp has one either.
No ATM at our mail station, no signage, Starting to feel like the Red headed step child.

Be careful. You'll be labeled a negative Nellie and directed to move.

[FMF Doc]

If you go to the "other" news site there is a letter from Victor Ray, one of the District 8 Supervisors. For me is was pretty enlightening as to their reasons for voting this way and also the actual cost. It seems as of there may be considerable amount of misinformation being passed around.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by SALYBOW

Put signs up identifying the villages that don't have signs''.
We live in Buttonwood, one of the biggest villages, and we don;t have a sign which identifies our villages on St Charles. Buttonwood is on both sides of St. Charles and people have trouble finding us. Even residents of Buttonwood can pass by Buttonwood Run after dark, I don't believe Pennecamp has one either.
No ATM at our mail station, no signage, Starting to feel like the Red headed step child.

I so understand you. You speak Ahia.


Love you Sally.

[billethkid]

Now the supervisors have the opinion of the residents. They are up against it now are they not.

We shall see whether, they act in accordance with the wishes of those they represent. How could they not go with the residents.

[twoplanekid]

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer

Like helmets for motorcyclists and bicycle riders, seat belts in golf carts are not legally mandated. It's about personal responsibility.

Currently, 19 states and the District of Columbia have laws requiring all motorcyclists to wear a helmet, known as universal helmet laws. Laws requiring only some motorcyclists to wear a helmet are in place in 28 states. There is no motorcycle helmet use law in three states (Illinois, Iowa and New Hampshire).

Ohio children 16 or younger would have to wear a helmet while riding a bike under legislation introduced yesterday. (May 2015)

Backed by the Ohio Chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics, Sen. Shannon Jones, R-Springboro, said having a state law in place would increase the usage of bicycle helmets.

[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by cavalier65

Side-striping is a wasted expense and an ongoing maintenance headache. I wonder if the advocates for it would agree to putting 20mph governors on every golf cart and large fines for those exceeding the limit? Many of the gas-powered carts have been "modified" to go 25-30mpg--which is more dangerous? Plus, how many carts have inadequate exterior lights? Hmm, how do side-stripes address these more important safety issues?

Yep, I would agree that carts should not exceed 20 mph. I am getting passed all the time on the paths because my carts only go 20 mph. Let's setup an inspection process to certify the carts do not exceed 20 mph. You would need a certification sticker on your cart before it could be driven on the MMPs. The carts would have to be recertified each year. This would be funded and ran by the Districts. I am sure this would cost less striping. And while we are at it, let's have vision and driving test as well...

The Sumter Co. Sheriff recently sent a letter to the dealers within Sumter Co letting them know selling carts that can exceed 20 mph is illegal. I have also added additional turn, brake and running lights to my carts. I am doing everything I can to make sure my cart is visable to others and I can see. What I can't control is the other drivers and I want every possible means (including side striping) to keep me safe while traveling on the MMPs. I want to be able to clearly see the edge as I am taking defensive actions from some drunk speeding down the middle of the path because they cannot see the edge. If striping is such a bad idea, let's take them off the streets as well. Let's make it a real free-for-all. Talk about your personal responsibility!

All of the posters so far have not said why striping is such a bad idea other than they do not want to pay for it. An origanization I loath, the POA has presented a thoughtful and good arguement on why there should be striping. The folks saying there should not be striping are the ones exceeding the speed limits, have bad lighting on their carts and take their own beer to the squares then drive.

I am willing to pony up the $4.00. Give me a better option. (and not telling me to stay off the MMPs when it is dark on raining)

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

Yep, I would agree that carts should not exceed 20 mph. I am getting passed all the time on the paths because my carts only go 20 mph. The Sumter Co. Sheriff recently sent a letter to the dealers within Sumter Co letting them know selling carts that can exceed 20 mph is illegal. I have also added additional turn, brake and running lights to my carts. I am doing everything I can to make sure my cart is visable to others and I can see. What I can't control is the other drivers and I want every possible means (including side striping) to keep me safe while traveling on the MMPs. I want to be able to clearly see the edge as I am taking defensive actions from some drunk speeding down the middle of the path because they cannot see the edge. If striping is such a bad idea, let's take them off the streets as well. Let's make it a real free-for-all. Talk about your personal responsibility!

All of the posters so far have not said why striping is such a bad idea other than they do not want to pay for it. An origanization I loath, the POA has presented a thoughtful and good arguement on why there should be striping. The folks saying there should not be striping are the ones exceeding the speed limits, have bad lighting on their carts and take their own beer to the squares then drive.

I am willing to pony up the $4.00. Give me a better option. (and not telling me to stay off the MMPs when it is dark on raining)

I agree with everything you said except what I bolded. Your logic took a leap not backed up with facts.

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

...

All of the posters so far have not said why striping is such a bad idea other than they do not want to pay for it.

...

Simply not true. The added hazard to pedestrians and bike riders has been talked about in several post.

[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

Simply not true. The added hazard to pedestrians and bike riders has been talked about in several post.

Yes, and this constantly ignored or minimized. They are MULTI MODAL paths. They'll be slippery most of the time, not just at night.
Are we even sure golf carts won't lose traction when the strips are wet?

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

Simply not true. The added hazard to pedestrians and bike riders has been talked about in several post.

Are you referring to the post asking if the stripe was slippery? And might be a biking hazard?
I don't feel like rereading all that has been discussed and quite frankly my memory is fading faster than my 240 yard drives.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer

Yes, and this constantly ignored or minimized. They are MULTI MODAL paths. They'll be slippery most of the time, not just at night.
Are we even sure golf carts won't lose traction when the strips are wet?

Are there existing slippery stripes? I'd like to perform an experiment with my bike. My brother in law, who is a ride leader with thousands of miles under his belt broke his leg 2 years ago. He had both wheels on a submerged railroad track and the bottom kicked out. He was locked in. I don't think that would happen on a stripe but I would like to try it out. I don't lock in.

[biker1]

Your suggestion about golf cart certification will never fly. There would be significant legal/political hurdles and there are 55,000+ golf carts in The Villages; the logistical issues would be significant. This is a primarily republican community and people will not put up with more regulations in their lives.

Originally Posted by Mleeja

Yep, I would agree that carts should not exceed 20 mph. I am getting passed all the time on the paths because my carts only go 20 mph. Let's setup an inspection process to certify the carts do not exceed 20 mph. You would need a certification sticker on your cart before it could be driven on the MMPs. The carts would have to be recertified each year. This would be funded and ran by the Districts. I am sure this would cost less striping. And while we are at it, let's have vision and driving test as well...

The Sumter Co. Sheriff recently sent a letter to the dealers within Sumter Co letting them know selling carts that can exceed 20 mph is illegal. I have also added additional turn, brake and running lights to my carts. I am doing everything I can to make sure my cart is visable to others and I can see. What I can't control is the other drivers and I want every possible means (including side striping) to keep me safe while traveling on the MMPs. I want to be able to clearly see the edge as I am taking defensive actions from some drunk speeding down the middle of the path because they cannot see the edge. If striping is such a bad idea, let's take them off the streets as well. Let's make it a real free-for-all. Talk about your personal responsibility!

All of the posters so far have not said why striping is such a bad idea other than they do not want to pay for it. An origanization I loath, the POA has presented a thoughtful and good arguement on why there should be striping. The folks saying there should not be striping are the ones exceeding the speed limits, have bad lighting on their carts and take their own beer to the squares then drive.

I am willing to pony up the $4.00. Give me a better option. (and not telling me to stay off the MMPs when it is dark on raining)

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

Yep, I would agree that carts should not exceed 20 mph. I am getting passed all the time on the paths because my carts only go 20 mph. Let's setup an inspection process to certify the carts do not exceed 20 mph. You would need a certification sticker on your cart before it could be driven on the MMPs. The carts would have to be recertified each year. This would be funded and ran by the Districts. I am sure this would cost less striping. And while we are at it, let's have vision and driving test as well...

The Sumter Co. Sheriff recently sent a letter to the dealers within Sumter Co letting them know selling carts that can exceed 20 mph is illegal. I have also added additional turn, brake and running lights to my carts. I am doing everything I can to make sure my cart is visable to others and I can see. What I can't control is the other drivers and I want every possible means (including side striping) to keep me safe while traveling on the MMPs. I want to be able to clearly see the edge as I am taking defensive actions from some drunk speeding down the middle of the path because they cannot see the edge. If striping is such a bad idea, let's take them off the streets as well. Let's make it a real free-for-all. Talk about your personal responsibility!

All of the posters so far have not said why striping is such a bad idea other than they do not want to pay for it. An origanization I loath, the POA has presented a thoughtful and good arguement on why there should be striping. The folks saying there should not be striping are the ones exceeding the speed limits, have bad lighting on their carts and take their own beer to the squares then drive.

I am willing to pony up the $4.00. Give me a better option. (and not telling me to stay off the MMPs when it is dark on raining)

You changed your post and added new opinions that I disagree with.

[Marathon Man]

District 8 Board of Supervisors have, by a 4 to 1 vote, rescinded their previous vote. The previous vote was to move forward with the installation of striping. By rescinding that vote, striping will not occur.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Mleeja

Yep, I would agree that carts should not exceed 20 mph. I am getting passed all the time on the paths because my carts only go 20 mph. Let's setup an inspection process to certify the carts do not exceed 20 mph. You would need a certification sticker on your cart before it could be driven on the MMPs. The carts would have to be recertified each year. This would be funded and ran by the Districts. I am sure this would cost less striping. And while we are at it, let's have vision and driving test as well...

And while we're at it, let's just have George Orwell plant a Big Brother representative in everyone's home to monitor what we eat and when we pee.