[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Can't derail if there are no tracks. Free form is more stylistic
Oh! Cheese is good! 😋

Too late. In the interest of transparency, I’ve been ‘warned’ by the moderator. I don’t agree with the action but like most forums I suspect, there is little one can do about it. I have seen some ‘interesting’ posts on TOTV by multiple authors who have truly gone out of their way to ‘insult’ the individual(s) whom they have disagreements with......I don’t believe that is the case here. In fact, I pride myself on being creative, original and self deprecating at times.....always without any malice. I guess it’s just one of those things like the lady said “methinks doth protest too much”

[dcammel]

Originally Posted by Darield

I am amazed that Florida still allows the use of plastic bags in grocery stores. So many other states have banned it. We now have microplastics (very small plastic particles) in our agriculture soil, ocean and just about anywhere you can think of. There are so many studies that verify the dangers of plastics and I cringe every time I go to the grocery store and see 10-20-30 plastic bags per cart. Just one Publics said they can go through thousands of plastic bags in a day. Here is one link that talks about how serious this problem has gotten. It's our new DDT.How microplastics are infiltrating the food you eat . There are now studies beiing done of earthworms ingesting micro-plastics. ScienceDirect

Gotta chuckle they want to control plastic bags that carry home your plastic butter tubs, ketchup bottles, spaghetti sauce, mustard, milk bottles, pill bottles, bacon wrappers, self-service meat items, and hundreds of other products in plastic containers. Sounds like another opportunity for a Biden tax based on usage!

[thevillagernie]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

No big deal, just take reusable bags with me into the store.

yes,live in de and read your post's...no plastic in De bring reusable bags with you ...no peoblem up here.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by simplesimonsaid

Ocean Dumping was New York's primary method for disposing of its waste until as recently as 1992. The waste was simply dumped it into the ocean. At one point, as much as 80% of New York's garbage ended up out at sea.

and someone is worried about a plastic bag in the gulf of mexico.

"Out of sight, out of mind." Up until recently trash was hidden. Dumped in the ocean, lakes, ravines, mountain valleys, landfills and buried. We couldn't see it, so it didn't exist. But, like a bear in the forest that disappeared behind a tree, it is still there, and just because you don't see it doest mean the danger doesn't exist. Plastic has made our lives easier and more convenient. But the long-term cost is rearing its ugly head. We can't hide it forever.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by dcammel

Gotta chuckle they want to control plastic bags that carry home your plastic butter tubs, ketchup bottles, spaghetti sauce, mustard, milk bottles, pill bottles, bacon wrappers, self-service meat items, and hundreds of other products in plastic containers. Sounds like another opportunity for a Biden tax based on usage!

Your obvious political shot at Biden is inaccurate. We already pay taxes on things we use. The more you use, the more you pay.
As for plastic bottles, jars, etc, milk, ketchup, sauces and more came in glass. Butter came in paper and cardboard. Same for bacon. Spaghetti still comes in a cardboard box, thank goodness. There are many things plastic does very well, but it is not always the best option.

[Switter]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

All Villages trash is transported to the Covanta Lake II, Inc. Energy from Waste (EfW) facility in Okahumpka, Florida where it is burned and turned into energy. This plant produces enough electricity to power more than one million homes annually, while reducing the amount of methane, a greenhouse gas that would otherwise be produced by the trash going to landfills and that is more than 28 times as potent as carbon dioxide at trapping heat in the atmosphere, to zero. The site diverts 21 million tons of waste annually from landfills, while at the same time recycling 1.1 million tons of material, of which 550,000 tons are metals, annually. It does this in an essentially clean manner: Over 99.9 percent of what is discharged into the air is what is typically find in air - water vapor, nitrogen, oxygen, and carbon dioxide. The remaining constituents are well below federal and state standards. (from the Covanta website).

Looks as if our plastics are being put to very good use.

Wow, this is really good information. Thanks for posting it. I was kind of wondering why The villages didn't recycle.

[mambeg]

Look at how much plastic is in your own reusable bag. Everything is wrapped in plastic. Your car is now plastic. Everything is plastic. Try this at home. Weigh your filled grocery bags and then weigh your garbage bags and see how much garbage you are paying for and throwing out. to a land fill.

[bopat]

What about plastic packaging? Can we ban meats wrapped in plastic? Maybe wrap them in reusable cloths or paper?

[Mppl1956]

Originally Posted by Darield

I am amazed that Florida still allows the use of plastic bags in grocery stores. So many other states have banned it. We now have microplastics (very small plastic particles) in our agriculture soil, ocean and just about anywhere you can think of. There are so many studies that verify the dangers of plastics and I cringe every time I go to the grocery store and see 10-20-30 plastic bags per cart. Just one Publics said they can go through thousands of plastic bags in a day. Here is one link that talks about how serious this problem has gotten. It's our new DDT.How microplastics are infiltrating the food you eat . There are now studies beiing done of earthworms ingesting micro-plastics. ScienceDirect

Wait. How did we get to plastic bags. Oh yea it was the same environmentalist that said we were killing all the trees and that was killing the air and the rainforest. Now their solution is the new problem.
Must have something to do with the global cooling, no global warming, no I mean climate change.
Just saying

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by Darield

I am amazed that Florida still allows the use of plastic bags in grocery stores. So many other states have banned it. We now have microplastics (very small plastic particles) in our agriculture soil, ocean and just about anywhere you can think of. There are so many studies that verify the dangers of plastics and I cringe every time I go to the grocery store and see 10-20-30 plastic bags per cart. Just one Publics said they can go through thousands of plastic bags in a day. Here is one link that talks about how serious this problem has gotten. It's our new DDT.How microplastics are infiltrating the food you eat . There are now studies beiing done of earthworms ingesting micro-plastics. ScienceDirect

lol. Unreal how many people posted such long responses to this topic. Thats good though. It shows nothing of more importance is on their mind.

[waterflower]

Why are the food manufacturers allowed to use plastic packaging. The root of the problem. These companies should change there horrible ways of poisoning the manufactured food they produce.

[Jazzman]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

There's this chicken-wire or some such fence on the island of Bonaire, maybe 6' - 8' high, where locals hang things that wash in from the sea. Pretty eye-opening: I saw a few bags but lots of other stuff as well. Clothing. Children's toys. lots of plastic bottles and containers. Those plastic holders that six-packs of beer come in. Styrofoam. Those foam flotation "noodles". A hairpiece ("wig"?) A dilapidated fishing net. Couple of beach balls. Partially-filled plastic water bottles. A couple of things I can't mention here. What appeared to be a beach lounge chair. Lots of other stuff. It was eye-opening to say the least. According to a local I talked to the display changes regularly as new items wash up and old ones are disposed of.

Bags are negligible compared to the huge amounts of detritus tossed into the ocean down there.

And there is no country of origin label on any of that “trash” but environmental advocates just assume its origin is here in the US.

[opinionist]

I am more concerned with plastic bottles that shed into liquids that are ingested. What was wrong with the old glass bottles?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by opinionist

I am more concerned with plastic bottles that shed into liquids that are ingested. What was wrong with the old glass bottles?

Cost of manufacturing, weight, ease of breakage, potential to cause harm (cuts), and likely cost of materials.

[Marine1974]

Originally Posted by bobeaston

Assumptions are dangerous!!!!

Buried behind the original poster's statement, and maybe in the cited articles, is the unspoken assumption that plastics we dispose of are going into landfills. Sure, that was true back in New Jersey, but not here.

All plastic that we put in our trash doesn't get anywhere near those poor earthworms. It goes directly into an incinerator that turns it into electricity for powering our clean running and environmentally harmless Teslas.

To produce a battery for your environmentally friendly Tesla the process of extracting lithium consumes significant amounts of water and energy, and lithium mining can pollute the air and water with chemicals and heavy metals. In addition, mining lithium can disrupt wildlife habitats and cause soil erosion, leading to long-term ecological damage. All the earth moving mining equipment runs on diesel fuel . Feb 24, 2023 and after driving your environmentally friendly Tesla until the battery needs replacement, then there is this ;
Disposal. Lithium-ion batteries contain metals such as cobalt, nickel, and manganese, which are toxic and can contaminate water supplies and ecosystems if they leach out of landfills. Additionally, fires in landfills or battery-recycling facilities have been attributed to inappropriate disposal of lithium-ion batteries ..
If you look at cradle to grave with these so called environmentally friendly Tesla’s , not so friendly.
Where do you think the electricity from your charging stations come from ? Research it .