[firefighter4u]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I'm amazed that "other states" ban them. And by "other states" I assume it's California (no surprise there). Thank God Florida has some rational lawmakers. The Graduate, 1967, "I want to say one word to you, Benjamin. Just one word.---Plastics"
Or more germane to that post, "Chicken Little, the sky is falling"

The other state that I know is... drum roll please.... New York.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by firefighter4u

The other state that I know is... drum roll please.... New York.

It saddens me, but MA as well but only in certain communities by ordinance. My own personal protest is to just patronize stores in towns that still offer the choice. Which is all I want. I dont like mandates

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by bopat

What about plastic packaging? Can we ban meats wrapped in plastic? Maybe wrap them in reusable cloths or paper?

Butcher paper. Deli meat, cheese is often still wrapped in it. Old school works well in many cases.

[airstreamingypsy]

How sad that so many just don't care and have no concern for the world. It's so easy to bring your own bags to the store, and reuse them.....

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

lol. Unreal how many people posted such long responses to this topic. Thats good though. It shows nothing of more importance is on their mind.

Not necessarily so! Could just be one of many important topics, but you have to start somewhere, and plastic pollution is as good a topic as any.

[ron32162]

What is all of your food wrapped in, your milk packaged in, paper towels wrapped in ..etc. This is in every State. Do you think the government is not aware. They don't care but keep sending them some money for their green this and that it will be taken care of wink,wink.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Butcher paper. Deli meat, cheese is often still wrapped in it. Old school works well in many cases.

But would this actually work? Rather than a deli case full of see-through packages of cheeses and meats you would prefer a case full of opaque, white wrappers? Or are you truly going back to old school and doing away with all prepackaged deli items in favor of a longer line at the deli counter?

The deli counter could absolutely use paper rather than plastic to wrap your freshly-sliced items but I don't see how this could work for the bulk of the prepackaged items in the deli case.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by opinionist

I am more concerned with plastic bottles that shed into liquids that are ingested. What was wrong with the old glass bottles?

Nothing! Bring back glass bottles, jars, etc. Beer is best in glass, not plastic. Same with wine, or any alcoholic beverage. Red Solo cup be damned! Give me glass, I say, I say!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by LeRoySmith

I wonder if Kennedy was really shot with one single shot rifle?

Kennedy was shot with a cheap mail order bolt-action 6.5 caliber Italian Army Carcano. That is not counting the possible controversial other shooters.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Marine1974

To produce a battery for your environmentally friendly Tesla the process of extracting lithium consumes significant amounts of water and energy, and lithium mining can pollute the air and water with chemicals and heavy metals. In addition, mining lithium can disrupt wildlife habitats and cause soil erosion, leading to long-term ecological damage. All the earth moving mining equipment runs on diesel fuel . Feb 24, 2023 and after driving your environmentally friendly Tesla until the battery needs replacement, then there is this ;
Disposal. Lithium-ion batteries contain metals such as cobalt, nickel, and manganese, which are toxic and can contaminate water supplies and ecosystems if they leach out of landfills. Additionally, fires in landfills or battery-recycling facilities have been attributed to inappropriate disposal of lithium-ion batteries ..
If you look at cradle to grave with these so called environmentally friendly Tesla’s , not so friendly.
Where do you think the electricity from your charging stations come from ? Research it .

Some from coal, oil. And some from sunlight, wind, hydro, tidal, burning waste. Small steps to a better, cleaner, healthier future. Gotta learn to walk before you can run. Get up and move! Don't just sit, mired in the smoky, oily past.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Don't get banned. I and many others value your input. As for guns, I am exmilitary and a former gun owner, I know a bit about guns. If it is only target practice, a BB gun can serve. Just not the same thrill as a semiautomatic 9mm or 44mag.

The Village has a nice pellet pistol and rifle target range. I went there several years ago. Pointed pellets and BBs are not allowed because they are more likely to bounce back.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

"Out of sight, out of mind." Up until recently trash was hidden. Dumped in the ocean, lakes, ravines, mountain valleys, landfills and buried. We couldn't see it, so it didn't exist. But, like a bear in the forest that disappeared behind a tree, it is still there, and just because you don't see it doest mean the danger doesn't exist. Plastic has made our lives easier and more convenient. But the long-term cost is rearing its ugly head. We can't hide it forever.

I basically agree. And as far as "mountains of trash" go - Around the 1950s when the population of the US was around 200 million people - there were more remote areas to dump trash and fewer people PRODUCING trash. People would throw stuff like banana peels out of the window of their car and it was NOT the disaster that it is today. Today cities are bigger and denser to accommodate the LARGER population. The wall-to-wall concrete in the city makes the summer HEAT more intense.
...........Today very few people spend a lot of time communicating with nature by tent camping in a remote area or hiking mountainous areas. For many people the closest time they spend with nature is when they play 18 holes of golf. And more power to them!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Your obvious political shot at Biden is inaccurate. We already pay taxes on things we use. The more you use, the more you pay.
As for plastic bottles, jars, etc, milk, ketchup, sauces and more came in glass. Butter came in paper and cardboard. Same for bacon. Spaghetti still comes in a cardboard box, thank goodness. There are many things plastic does very well, but it is not always the best option.

I wonder if Amish people have micro-plastic particles floating around their blood systems. Or if their produce has the same contamination as ours does? If their carrot roots are covered with it?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston

It saddens me, but MA as well but only in certain communities by ordinance. My own personal protest is to just patronize stores in towns that still offer the choice. Which is all I want. I dont like mandates

Nobody likes mandates that don't support their own preferences. But, sometimes, its in the the best interests of us all.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The problem with plastic bags is not just "a few grams of plastic". The problem is that the lightweight plastic bags get blown around into our local lakes and even the Gulf of Mexico - where they cause problems (even death) for birds, fish, and mammals.

Easy solution, fill them with dog poop and throw them out with the trash and they won’t get blown away. If you don’t have a dog, give them to a neighbor with one and make a new friend. Problem solved! Otherwise, responsible dog owners would be using another type of plastic bag that isn’t being repurposed, creating even more plastic waste.