[CFrance]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

One of the reasons there is not enough is because I see GOLFCARTS WITH R/A TAGS parked right in the middle of handicap parking spots. HAVING AN R/A TAG DOES NOT QUALIFY YOU TO PARK IN A HANDICAP SPOT - QUIT ACTING PRIVELGED/ENTITLED/STUPID!

What's an R/A tag?

[BobnBev]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Good thing for you she didn't have a long gun and a short temper!

Actually, it's a good thing for her.

[BobnBev]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

Quite a story ! If she displayed a handicapped sticker why would you want to post her tag number ???

Because, obviously, she wasn't handicapped. She is most likely living with her elderly parents.

[BobnBev]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

How was anybody impacted by the way she parked?

So then, what you're saying it's OK to break the law, if doing so, doesn't bother or impact anyone else. Sad way to look at things, IMHO.

[scarecrow1]

You are way out of touch. A handicap isn't always visible. I have MD and you wouldn't know it if I had long pants on you couldn't see my braces you would think when I get out of my Vett you would probably say the same thing about me. As for parking in the villages they are definitely in violation of the ADA as far as the number and placing of handicap spacing but they don't care. Some good retired lawyer could make a lot of money sueing them in a class action suit. This is one of the reasons I sold my house and moved out. Haven't missed it a bit.....🙈🙉🙊

[golfing eagles]

another satisfied customer.......

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by CFrance

What's an R/A tag?

It's a type of wrap you can put on your golf cart. It signifies to the ambassadors that you have permission to do some things with your golf cart that others may not. For example, get closer to the green with your cart than is typically allowed. R/A = reasonable accommodation. Most people I know who have one also qualify for a handicap tag - but they are not interchangeable.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by scarecrow1

You are way out of touch. A handicap isn't always visible. I have MD and you wouldn't know it if I had long pants on you couldn't see my braces you would think when I get out of my Vett you would probably say the same thing about me. As for parking in the villages they are definitely in violation of the ADA as far as the number and placing of handicap spacing but they don't care. Some good retired lawyer could make a lot of money sueing them in a class action suit. This is one of the reasons I sold my house and moved out. Haven't missed it a bit.....[emoji85][emoji86][emoji87]

I have no idea what the ADA requirements for handicap spaces are would you please tell me?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by scarecrow1

You are way out of touch. A handicap isn't always visible. I have MD and you wouldn't know it if I had long pants on you couldn't see my braces you would think when I get out of my Vett you would probably say the same thing about me. As for parking in the villages they are definitely in violation of the ADA as far as the number and placing of handicap spacing but they don't care. Some good retired lawyer could make a lot of money sueing them in a class action suit. This is one of the reasons I sold my house and moved out. Haven't missed it a bit.....🙈🙉🙊

Good more space for those who need it.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And just WHAT do you think the doctor gets out of it???? The joy of filling out yet another form?????.. Sorry, but I'll take the MD over a hoodie any day.

Hey Doc, no one is saying all doctors are complicit in this fraud. But there are enough. What does a doctor get out of this? An office visit charge and maybe a couple procedure codes? Have you heard of the medicare fraud in south florida? Millions of dollars to a single doctor! I think we had one in TV recently. Times have changed. No more Dr Welbys.

[outlaw]

A long time ago, there was a similar thread. I posted my layman's criteria for HC placard: on crutches, in a wheelchair, or dragging an oxygen tank behind. I was skewered. Let's face it. In the old days, that is who the HC parking spaces were meant for. Now, if your feet hurt when you walk, you get a HC placard. If you're 100# overweight, and your knees hurt, you get a HC placard. If you tell your doctor your back really hurts when you walk, you get a HC placard. That's why there aren't empty HC parking spaces! I have watched men play basketball after parking with a HC placard. I have watched people carrying and loading a large cooler full of ice into the back of a truck(with the HC placard) parked in a HC slot. Sure there are illnesses that are "invisible", and some may require a HC placard. But there is soooo much fraud in the system. At the rate we are going, Walmart is going to start marking the two remaining parking spaces for "anyone". All the unmarked spaces will be HC only.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Hey Doc, no one is saying all doctors are complicit in this fraud. But there are enough. What does a doctor get out of this? An office visit charge and maybe a couple procedure codes? Have you heard of the medicare fraud in south florida? Millions of dollars to a single doctor! I think we had one in TV recently. Times have changed. No more Dr Welbys.

Really? Care to provide statistics on how many?
I've never had anyone make an appointment for the sole purpose of getting a handicapped sticker, it's always a "by the way". Even if they did, you get what, a 99213 office visit, big deal. What "procedure codes" do you think would be involved? Medicare fraud is a whole different animal, the majority of which occurs in California, Texas and Florida, but those criminals are not making millions on handicap placards.

Originally Posted by outlaw

A long time ago, there was a similar thread. I posted my layman's criteria for HC placard: on crutches, in a wheelchair, or dragging an oxygen tank behind. I was skewered. Let's face it. In the old days, that is who the HC parking spaces were meant for. Now, if your feet hurt when you walk, you get a HC placard. If you're 100# overweight, and your knees hurt, you get a HC placard. If you tell your doctor your back really hurts when you walk, you get a HC placard. That's why there aren't empty HC parking spaces! I have watched men play basketball after parking with a HC placard. I have watched people carrying and loading a large cooler full of ice into the back of a truck(with the HC placard) parked in a HC slot. Sure there are illnesses that are "invisible", and some may require a HC placard. But there is soooo much fraud in the system. At the rate we are going, Walmart is going to start marking the two remaining parking spaces for "anyone". All the unmarked spaces will be HC only.

Really? How much? Medicare estimates 6-8 billion/year--in a 2.7 trillion/year health care industry---I'm surprised it isn't a lot more, even 5% would be 135 billion! Compare this with government waste and fraud. This is nothing but criminal activity that should be prosecuted, unfortunately they spend more $$ trying to find it than it is worth.

A "long time ago", I posted the LEGAL criteria for a handicapped placard--fortunately for those that qualify it has nothing to do with YOUR personal "layman's criteria" Can a patient intent on fraudulently obtaining a placard do so---of course, but that's on them. Can I imagine a doctor feeding them the words--maybe, but not often---trust me , we have much better things to do. Can I imagine the doctor giving in to them just to shut them up--probably the #1 reason someone can get something they don't otherwise deserve. Have I seen any ads in the yellow pages for "Come get your fraudulent handicap placard here" No, have you?

On one of those previous threads, there was a poster who felt he was equally qualified to determine eligibility for a handicapped placard just by observing someone from a distance---because he was "smart" and had "life experience" says it all. I can't even do that, remember: a) book by its cover and b) be thankful YOU don't need one.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by scarecrow1

You are way out of touch. A handicap isn't always visible. I have MD and you wouldn't know it if I had long pants on you couldn't see my braces you would think when I get out of my Vett you would probably say the same thing about me. As for parking in the villages they are definitely in violation of the ADA as far as the number and placing of handicap spacing but they don't care. Some good retired lawyer could make a lot of money sueing them in a class action suit. This is one of the reasons I sold my house and moved out. Haven't missed it a bit.....🙈🙉🙊

Just wondering why you waste your time reading TOTV if you sold your house and moved out?
BTW what do you base your statement the Villages "is in violation"?

[PennBF]

I agree it was offensive to question the H/C need for a person with such a problem. Also you can't tell the person who has heart problems and has very restricted walking, or the person with a leg problem that prevents them from walking too much and so on. It is pretty bad to assert the definitions of those that can use H/C spaces. We should be happy to be healthy enough to use non H/C spaces and respect those that have to. It is not necessary to respond to this note as I really don't care what others think. This is my opinion and I have approved it.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

be thankful YOU don't need one.

That my friend should be the take-away lesson.
[and I would like to see more drop-off points to help those who need help]