[HMLRHT1]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Please re-read the newspaper article.

It is obvious to me from this article and the one in the online news that the diligent and careful sheriff's department is doing their duty to be sure everything is researched but there seems to be no crime. It appears that the person who called them was overmedicated with alcohol and prescription medication which you should not take together.

GracieGirl,
The individual in the article MAY have been under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Does it say there was NO crime committed? The individual could have been drugged by the attacker. You just never know until ALL the facts are in. Let's leave it at that. But you are entitled to your opinion.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by HMLRHT1

GracieGirl,
The individual in the article MAY have been under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Does it say there was NO crime committed? The individual could have been drugged by the attacker. You just never know until ALL the facts are in. Let's leave it at that. But you are entitled to your opinion.

That was only my opinion. I have no insider information. Do not know anyone in the sheriff's office and do not know the developer. I have a grandson who will probably be president someday, but that is all the clout I have. I know this because his parents pointed it out when he was a baby.

I read the same two articles that you did. But I have women's intuition.

[perrjojo]

Obviously something very unfortunate happened. It was not reported because there was nothing to report. No one seems to know what really happened. Once law enforcement sorts it all out, we will know.

[LoriAnn]

With fines upward 1 million per HIPPA violation, I guarantee the hospital did not disclose that the woman's hospitalization was unrelated to the reported event. They would not even disclose to a member of the police dept without a court order or Patient permission. That statement by the reporter was conjecture. He/She could not have gained that information from a reliable source. I can't imagine that a woman would report a home invasion, burglary, beating, rape and then just happened to require hospitalization immediately afterward without it being related. Defies belief!

[charlie_marie]

Originally Posted by LoriAnn

With fines upward 1 million per HIPPA violation, I guarantee the hospital did not disclose that the woman's hospitalization was unrelated to the reported event. They would not even disclose to a member of the police dept without a court order or Patient permission. That statement by the reporter was conjecture. He/She could not have gained that information from a reliable source. I can't imagine that a woman would report a home invasion, burglary, beating, rape and then just happened to require hospitalization immediately afterward without it being related. Defies belief!

Finally a voice of reason !!

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by LoriAnn

With fines upward 1 million per HIPPA violation, I guarantee the hospital did not disclose that the woman's hospitalization was unrelated to the reported event. They would not even disclose to a member of the police dept without a court order or Patient permission. That statement by the reporter was conjecture. He/She could not have gained that information from a reliable source. I can't imagine that a woman would report a home invasion, burglary, beating, rape and then just happened to require hospitalization immediately afterward without it being related. Defies belief!

Thank You!!

[boomerbaby]

golden hurricane as a woman that lives in Duval I want to thank you for alerting us that something happened in Duval, or any other village. Now 5 days later it was in the daily sun. I agree with Gracie that the article sounds very strange and so we will have to wait and see what the outcome is. If it is true it is so sad that this has happened and obviously something happened to her. If it ends up that it was not what golden hurricane reported I am ok with that because the op made it very clear that this is what they were told and felt people should be made aware to be on guard. I think it is easy to let your guard down in this wonderful place. I hope it ends up not being what you heard but I still thank you for alerting us.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by LoriAnn

With fines upward 1 million per HIPPA violation, I guarantee the hospital did not disclose that the woman's hospitalization was unrelated to the reported event. They would not even disclose to a member of the police dept without a court order or Patient permission. That statement by the reporter was conjecture. He/She could not have gained that information from a reliable source. I can't imagine that a woman would report a home invasion, burglary, beating, rape and then just happened to require hospitalization immediately afterward without it being related. Defies belief!

Go back and read the article that Gracie posted. It was the police, not the hospital, who reported that the woman was transported to the hospital for reasons other than her injuries. The police are not subject to HIPPA, I don't believe.

[LoriAnn]

That was the point! The police made the statement to the reporter. That makes the statement unreliable. A police officer cannot make a diagnosis or even a medical judgement. Head injury from a beating could exhibit signs and symptoms that look like alcohol intoxication to a untrained individual. The statement that she was confused and changing her story is also a possible sign of head injury or TBI. That confusion can last for days, weeks, months. It's very difficult to justify an admission to a hospital in today's environment. Her injuries would have been evident and serious to justify inpatient care. The police officer would have no way of knowing her admission diagnosis due to HIPPA. Therefore, he has no way of knowing her care is unrelated to the reported event.

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by LoriAnn

That was the point! The police made the statement to the reporter. That makes the statement unreliable. A police officer cannot make a diagnosis or even a medical judgement. Head injury from a beating could exhibit signs and symptoms that look like alcohol intoxication to a untrained individual. The statement that she was confused and changing her story is also a possible sign of head injury or TBI. That confusion can last for days, weeks, months. It's very difficult to justify an admission to a hospital in today's environment. Her injuries would have been evident and serious to justify inpatient care. The police officer would have no way of knowing her admission diagnosis due to HIPPA. Therefore, he has no way of knowing her care is unrelated to the reported event.

I cannot believe how people make up anything that comes to mind when they have no facts. This entire thread is chock full of assumptions, and claims to have known an eye witness or relative of the alleged victim, even though perhaps they only know what the alleged victim told them, but they believe what they heard is truth, even though law-enforcement says the victim making the allegations was confused.

My sense of it is, the alleged victim had issues, and so do most of us. Regarding her hospitalization, she was apparently substance impaired. Would that not explain confusion without having to fabricate a story about a brain injury?

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

I cannot believe how people make up anything that comes to mind when they have no facts. This entire thread is chock full of assumptions, claims to have known an eye witness or relative of the alleged victim.

My sense of it is, the alleged victim had issues, and so do most of us. Regarding her hospitalization, she was apparently "on something".. Would that not explain confusion without having to fabricate a story about a brain injury?

How is saying "she was apparently 'on something'" to explain her ALLEGED confusion not "chock full of assumptions"??

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

How is saying "she was apparently 'on something'" to explain her ALLEGED confusion not "chock full of assumptions"??

Substance impaired. Was that not reported by law enforcement?

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by LoriAnn

That was the point! The police made the statement to the reporter. That makes the statement unreliable. A police officer cannot make a diagnosis or even a medical judgement. Head injury from a beating could exhibit signs and symptoms that look like alcohol intoxication to a untrained individual. The statement that she was confused and changing her story is also a possible sign of head injury or TBI. That confusion can last for days, weeks, months. It's very difficult to justify an admission to a hospital in today's environment. Her injuries would have been evident and serious to justify inpatient care. The police officer would have no way of knowing her admission diagnosis due to HIPPA. Therefore, he has no way of knowing her care is unrelated to the reported event.

It was the police who were at the scene with the paramedics when she was taken to the hospital. It was obviously given to the police the reason for going to the hospital, either by the woman herself or the paramedics.
It was a police spokesperson who said her injuries were not what sent her to the hospital. How much more direct can you get? a POLICE SPOKESMAN who made the statement to the reporters. Nothing to do with HIPPA, who would tell you nothing, but eyewitness account by the police.

[LoriAnn]

How exactly do you know she was "on something". Did you do a drug screen and evaluate it? Why is the Victim always demonized? The only reliable facts are that a woman reported an intrusion, burglary and injury with an immediate hospitalization afterward. The fact that a Physician thought that she required immediate hospitalization is clear evidence of injury or illness. It doesn't matter how high ranking the police officer might be. They still are not entitled to private health information without a court order. They have no way of knowing her admission diagnosis or treatment while hospitalized. Their statements are unreliable. EMT's are under HIPPA obligation and their career would be over if they discussed or released information. I don't trust the information in the news report. I just don't think the matter can be filed under "she was just drunk". I'm sure everyone would sleep a little snugger in their beds thinking an intrusion and battery didn't occur. But, it won't go away just because you accuse the Victim of drunkenness, drug abuse and lies.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by LoriAnn

How exactly do you know she was "on something". Did you do a drug screen and evaluate it? Why is the Victim always demonized? The only reliable facts are that a woman reported an intrusion, burglary and injury with an immediate hospitalization afterward. The fact that a Physician thought that she required immediate hospitalization is clear evidence of injury or illness.

Please quote the poster you are responding to. If it was I, I never said she was on something. Obviously she needed to go to the hospital, but it was stated by the police that is was Not because of any injuries incurred in the alleged home invasion.

This story has lots of cracks in it.