[Pachine58]

So for new strain it does not matter if vaxed or unvaxed, it is equal opportunity. It is extremely contagious like the measles so figure you will get it. Lasts 3-5 days with flu symptoms and no lung component with it. You will get natural anti bodies against Delta. Now most people who end up in hospital are infected with Delta, the deadly form.

[brabz]

Even though you get vaccinated, my mother-in-law died from covid. She lives in PA but they do not have the Monoclonal antibody therapy. In Brownwood movie theater, they have this treatment.(free) I tested positive on a Weds. last month, went for the monoclonal therapy that day and had no symptoms. My husband also got it but he was running a high fever. The next day after treatment he had no symptoms. We are really lucky to have DeSantis as our governor. We have the medicine to help us.

[irishwonone]

Great. I know the drill now.

[merrymini]

These shots offer no protection from omicron.
Most people do not die from covid.
Cruise ships are filled with vaccinated people who are sick with omicron.
Omicron is relatively mild.
The feds have cornered the market on treatments making it unavailable through the state imdependently.
Masks are useless unless they are n 95s.
Numbers do not support the amount of deaths attributed to covid.
They are lying people, wake up.

[ficoguy]

Panic time

[Annie66]

Originally Posted by Cliff Fr

Aren't some of the staff shortages caused by firing employees who refused to be vaccinated?

Yes ..... but the data I've seen indicates that the lion share of the shortages are caused by Covid.

[oneclickplus]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

Di Santis is not going to lock down Florida during high season. Also, TV is probably one of the safest places to be. Many people wearing masks and have had their shots and boosters. All good.

About as safe as a fully vaccinated cruise ship.

CDC warns against cruise ship travel regardless of vaccination status : Coronavirus Updates : NPR

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by riptip

I am so not looking forward to being cooped up again. Am hoping we get through the worst of this in 4-6 weeks. Hopefully cases will stay low in TV because most of us are vaccinated. I prob will refrain from the squares for a bit. Best to all of you!

I doubt it what will control events will be a sick labor force. The next 4-6 weeks may be an issue.

[Annie66]

Originally Posted by fgaba1949

I agree
I used to think our health experts knew what they were doing and now I think they don't really know what is going on and are grasping at straws

and many of those SELF-PROCLAIMED medical EXPERTS have totally different and contradictory views

Back when this virus started it was all about clean surfaces masks and testing.

We waited for the vaccines as we were told that the vaccines were the way to go and when they first came out people thought that was the end of the virus as we would have some form of herd immunity as well

We soon we found out that vaccines sort of worked but not the way THE EXPERTS thought they would work...soon a 2nd shot was needed and now a booster and then maybe another booster? YET MORE AND MORE people got the Virus many of which were vaccinated with a booster.

but even with all of that we are now being told that while its good it does NOT really vaccinate you against the virus but maybe it makes the new virus like the flu ?

Testing has turned into a joke with a ton of different EXPERT opinions

Once considered the best way to go by the experts

now it seems that testing provides results that are confusing and doesn't really protect the folks who tested negative as they might get it an hour later.

Biden said he would 500 million test kits by Mid Jan...will that help ?

and where will he get them

as I believe Abbot makes the most reliable test kit and they can only make a small fraction of that amount

So yes I was a BELIEVER in the EXPERTS at the beginning but not any longer

I understand your skepticism, but having worked in the field, as you have heard, viruses mutate, often quickly. We have seen this with this year's flu virus (H3N2) that bypasses the vaccine. This is what we are beginning to see with the Omicron variant of Sars-Cov-2. With more people being infected, a higher number of mutations occur. Most are innocuous with little effect on the broader population, but some like the Delta and Omicron variants have staggering impacts. It takes some time to determine the effects of a new variant and then determine the best steps to mitigate it. The data is interpreted by the medical experts who too often interpret the data differently.....thus the confusion.

In the end, you have to make your own decisions. This does not mean ignore what you hear. Unfortunately, too many folks seem to be doing that these days. My concern is with the prevalence of Omicron infections world-wide, we stand a significant chance of having a more transmissible variant mutate that is much deadlier than what we have experienced, or it is unaffected by the current vaccines. Will we ignore the medical advice until it is too late?

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Close friend, hospital staffing recruiter:

Travelling nurses are now up to $200 per hour, plus living expenses. . .

Post who and where as my daughter is a travel ER Nurse and getting $105.00 with living expenses included in the Orlando area. Her contract is almost up and the recruiter hasn't found any better, in fact he says Hospitals are fighting the rates trying to cut them back.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by riptip

I am so not looking forward to being cooped up again. Am hoping we get through the worst of this in 4-6 weeks. Hopefully cases will stay low in TV because most of us are vaccinated. I prob will refrain from the squares for a bit. Best to all of you!

People are people. We have been dealing with this for three years. A diet. They all work.
Almost all fail because people do not stay on them.

Far as covid, I am getting sloppy as are most people.

Far as posts. Like everything else. People are people. So many say I am better than ....

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Larchap49

Post who and where as my daughter is a travel ER Nurse and getting $105.00 with living expenses included in the Orlando area. Her contract is almost up and the recruiter hasn't found any better, in fact he says Hospitals are fighting the rates trying to cut them back.

I remember as a kid, I got a summer job with a booking agent called MANPOWER. I'm not sure if they are still in business. They would supply labor for temporary positions. The workers I met, including me, were totally unqualified. I FOOLISHLY tried to do a good job.Others simply did not care. The agency billed customers 3x what they paid the workers.

Our entire medical system is a MESS. An ER nurse. Imagine you have a life threatening issue and the person helping you was picked up out of a day labor pool and is being paid half or less of what the hospital is paying the booking agent.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Annie66

I understand your skepticism, but having worked in the field, as you have heard, viruses mutate, often quickly. We have seen this with this year's flu virus (H3N2) that bypasses the vaccine. This is what we are beginning to see with the Omicron variant of Sars-Cov-2. With more people being infected, a higher number of mutations occur. Most are innocuous with little effect on the broader population, but some like the Delta and Omicron variants have staggering impacts. It takes some time to determine the effects of a new variant and then determine the best steps to mitigate it. The data is interpreted by the medical experts who too often interpret the data differently.....thus the confusion.

In the end, you have to make your own decisions. This does not mean ignore what you hear. Unfortunately, too many folks seem to be doing that these days. My concern is with the prevalence of Omicron infections world-wide, we stand a significant chance of having a more transmissible variant mutate that is much deadlier than what we have experienced, or it is unaffected by the current vaccines. Will we ignore the medical advice until it is too late?

People are people. We expect, no we demand, perfect answers. They do not exist.
Reality, we are, I AM retired it is far easier for me than when I was working-contacting far more people-using public transportation. The business I was in has surely slowed down. I'm sure people are not paying bills. I'm sure collecting past due bills are being made tough due to the people running these things.

As far as ignoring medical advice, no matter what we think, you can find AN EXPERT to agree with you and another EXPERT who says the other EXPERT is wrong.

[Warcats]

Get tough.Humans have endured a lot more hardship than this. And stop blaming people if you are. Back in pharmacy school in the 70s we knew this would happen someday. If a fierce bacteria ever gets loose that's when to worry. No major breakthroughs in antibiotics for years. We may have lived in the golden time of virus and bacteria fighting be thankful for that. If we have to wear masks to protect others so be it. And get politics out of this. When kids start dying in numbers maybe these no mask no vaccine folks will get a clue.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Yet another innocuous looking post, that gets misinformation and speculation back on the TOTV board.
Time to give these posts the elbow, and totally ignore them.
Plenty of dogs and roundabouts to keep us amused!

What is remarkable is these type of threads are most often started by users who have had accounts for 7-10 years and never made a previous post and after the post never return. Seems way to coincidental as there are dozens of these over a year ALWAYS topics that will obviously start long drawn out threads. The OP joined TOTV 10 years ago and his (her) only 2 posts were yesterday. If it swims like a fish it's fishy.