[pgettinger01]

Hybrids use regenerative braking to charge the battery. In the city you brake more than on the highway. For example a Prius gets 50 MPG in the city and 40 MPG on the highway.

[DangeloInspections]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

I have 2012 Honda Accord 4 cylinder. Get 26/37 mpg, uses zero oil, looks like new, drives and rides like new, aNd runs like new. This Honda could out last me, ( but, I religiously maintain it), but I get older and don’t like to crawl down in it my only reason I might another vehicle that sets higher.

My next choice’s Are Hyundai Santa Cruz, rav4? Not really fan of the 1.5/2.0 direct injection natural or turbo engines. not fan of Ford bronco or CRV’s for that reason. IMO so far too small, works too hard, and direct injection has had problem’s? If I had one I would religiously change the oil every 6 months minimum, especially if turbocharged? But, that’s me.

This is my situation...my wife states she can no longer comfortably get in and out of our 2014 Suburu Outback due to hip issues. So this tells me we can no longer own ANY lower vehicles....no more Priuses, no more Lexuses, nothing low. This is why I thought we need a higher SUV. I do not need a large one, as "her" car is a Town and Country minivan that she jumps UP into with no problem.

So we checked out the 2022 Tucson. She can get in and out of it no problem. The hybrid model has more HP, torque, etc. Cargo space is actually bigger than all the competition including the SantaFe. I am with you however....the new Santa Cruz coming out this summer is AMAZING. I'm SO tempted towards it, but do not really need the bed. It is basically the new Tucson with a 4'3' bed in the back. Blows everything else away in looks, styling, tech, etc.
Anyway, I still contend that anyone considering a new CR-V, Rav-4 , etc. at least take a look at this new Tucson....and no I am not a dealer, LOL, I have never owned a Hyundai before, but I am impressed with this one.

[bobdeb]

Originally Posted by JoelJohnson

We too have an 2008 Honda CRV (153,000 miles). I would stay away from hybrids as there is a much higher repair cost when (not if) things go bad. We are thinking that our next (and most likely last) vehicle will be a Toyota Highlander. They are one of the most bullet proof cars.
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Agreed. Hybrid repairs are extremely expensive. I would avoid a hybrid. Lease one maybe. Don't buy, or be sure to trade in after 2 or 3 years.

Basic Toyotas and Hondas are dependable. No, I don't own either at this time.

[rde3036]

I own a 2020 Honda Accord that currently has 13,000 miles on the odometer and averages 36 mpg with it's 1.5 liter turbo charged engine. Who needs the complexities of a hybrid!

[tuccillo]

Honda has a 5-year warranty on the power train. Why would you see the need to trade it after only 2 or 3 years?

Originally Posted by bobdeb

Agreed. Hybrid repairs are extremely expensive. I would avoid a hybrid. Lease one maybe. Don't buy, or be sure to trade in after 2 or 3 years.

Basic Toyotas and Hondas are dependable. No, I don't own either at this time.

[TedfromGA]

Originally Posted by Lil GTO

Interesting subject and comments. I’ve spent a lifetime in the car business and it never ceases to amaze me how many people think the Asian imports are such great and bullet proof vehicles.

At one time early 80’s through mid 90’s the American auto manufacturers produced substandard vehicles except for a few models within the domestic offering.

This lead almost to their demise. Since then the domestic manufacturers had a choice either go under or get with the program.

As Americans can and do they’ve not only put their products on par with all imports but have recently pulled ahead in quality and technology and safety in many instances.

Many imports were 5 years behind on current safety suites only offering them in their top luxury brands and models.

Finally they’re offering them in their main stream vehicles.

Here’s my question to those that think that imports have a quality/reliability advantage.

If in your mind you were certain that domestic vehicles were as good as if not better than imports would you then buy American?

If not why not? Our manufactures large and small need us to fully support them so that they can continue to lead the world in quality safety and technology.

The absolute facts are and Toyota, Honda, Nissan have all been caught at it several times and fined heavily for it that when there is a catastrophic recall it isn’t labeled as such the recall issued might be for a suspension component replacement or a faulty switch but the real problem is something to go with brake failure, unexpected acceleration, something that could cause fire etc.

The vehicle comes in for the suspension fix which was never an issue to begin with and the item that could cause catastrophic damage is then repaired the vehicle returned to the owner/lessee and they’re none the wiser.

It has happened many times and it will continue to happen as it is better to pay fines (if caught) which they only get caught a small percentage of the time than to lose their bullet proof reputation with the American buyers.

Folks if you’re convinced that imports are so superior to domestic vehicles just ride by the Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Kia, Hyundai, Subaru dealership on any given day and observe that the service bays are full.

They are full doing warranty work period just like the domestic dealerships.

Quit making these automotive decisions by following the little black and red dots in consumer reports and do some homework for your selves.

Domestic vehicles are winning and you should be too by driving and owning them.

Peace out.

Dan the carman for 52 years and counting.

Happy Mother’s Day to all the moms and grandmothers out there m.

FYI a Toyota car has more USA parts and is assembled in USA vs. an American brand car.

[bobdeb]

Originally Posted by tuccillo

Honda has a 5-year warranty on the power train. Why would you see the need to trade it after only 2 or 3 years?

Power train warranty doesn't cover auxiliary components. They are the ones that fail. It's a false sense of security.

[tuccillo]

Well, we have had two CR-Vs and nothing has failed. One was 7 years old when we sold it and the other is 10 years old and we still have it. The chances of anything failing on a 2-3 year old car is near zero and if something did fail virtually all cars come with 3 or 4 year bumper-to-bumper warranties.

Originally Posted by bobdeb

Power train warranty doesn't cover auxiliary components. They are the ones that fail. It's a false sense of security.

[kkingston57]

We moved here 6 months ago and live < 1 mile from Spanish Springs. Have driven less than 4K miles(2 cars) during that time. Added initial costs of the hybrid would not save money in the long run. Drive Acura MDX and get 20+ MPG. Hybrid (2K more) supposed to get 26MPG.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by TedfromGA

FYI a Toyota car has more USA parts and is assembled in USA vs. an American brand car.

You mean parts sent from China and assembled in US?

[Ben Franklin]

My wife purchased the Toyota Prius when they first came out in either 2002 or 2004 - can't remember the exact year. I drove it a couple of times, and enjoyed it so much, I bought one. I ended up owning 3 Prius' - not all at once. I put over 100,000 on each one and never had a problem. I also averaged about 46 miles a gallon. My wife's first Prius did develop a battery problem after the warranty period, but the dealership replaced them free of charge anyway.

Friend's of mine just purchased an all electric Tesla and drove it here from MN. I think my next car will be all electric. Probably not a Tesla though.

All cars end up having some problems, so go for it.

[eweissenbach]

Not exactly an answer to your specific question, but I’ll add my input anyway. I have had a 2018 Hyundai Ioniq for two years. I bought it a year old as a repair loaner with a new car warranty for about ten thousand under sticker. The new car warranty includes replacement batteries for life. I get 51-52 miles per gallon average driving and in TV I get 54 mpg. On trips to and from TV and Kansas City I get about 46 mpg as I drive a little faster than is economically advantageous. I average about 16,000 miles per year. The Ioniq is a hatchback which provides lots of cargo space and is comfortable for 4-5 occupants. Ioniqs are hard to find as for some reason they are not releasing many to the US market, but if you can snag one I don’t think you’ll be sorry. I

[placeman6]

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

My 2008 Honda CRV is getting a bit long in tooth and I am considering a new CRV, my understanding is hybrids show their worth in stop and go urban driving, 40 mpg advertised, but that's not the situation here in the Villages, my 2008 runs a consistent 26 , closer to the highway mileage mpg than city, can anyone with a newer CRV hybrid share their experience ? TIA

If it matters, my understanding is that a trailer hitch can not be installed on the CR-V Hybird.

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by placeman6

If it matters, my understanding is that a trailer hitch can not be installed on the CR-V Hybird.

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[Viperguy]

Just put gas in my wife's quiet tech Yamaha 2020. It got a little over 40 mpg. Her Ford C-Max hybrid gets almost 50 around town. Cheaper to drive the car.