[igolf47]

I have a 2017Honda Accord with 75,000 miles on it. I absolutely love getting 44-47 miles per gallon with zero issues. I plan to keep this car for 10-12 years. I am a firm believer in Honda and Toyota.

[DangeloInspections]

I know this may be a tad off topic, but I am currently in the market for a new car. I just gave my son my long in the tooth but still perfect 2007 Prius. LOVED that car...still do. I currently have a 2014 Suburu Outback that my wife now tells me is too low for her to get in and out of comfortably.

SO...I am looking for a crossover SUV. I have done extensive research on the Honda CRV, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rouge, etc......I have pretty much decided on the all new, completely re-designed Hyundai 2022 Tucson. The seats are high enough for my wife to use pain free, and the tech features blow ALL the other ones away. You turn on the turn blinkers and you SEE the whole side of the car camera view. It is now larger than the previous models...in fact, it has more cargo space than the bigger Santa Fe.

The Hybrid model gives a huge boost in HP, and MPG, and is only $1250 more than the regular AWD. Anyone looking at a Honda CRV should at least take a quick look at this new 2022 Tuscon, IMHO.

[Albany]

I have driven hybrids since 2012, Toyota has completely and totally nailed down the battery technology. In 2018 I got a Prius Prime plug-in hybrid. Got around 130 miles to the gallon and about 30 miles each time I plugged it in. Around town the 30 miles easily lasted me a few days. Ans OH YEAH--I got a $4,500 tax CREDIT.

I traded in the Prius for the 2021 BMW X3e. A plug-in hybrid;, it is bigger and heavier and I only get about 20 miles per plug-in, but that is plenty to get around town. And OH YEAH--I'm getting an almost $6000 tax CREDIT. Battery technology is way way ahead of what most people think, and I never ever got close to needing to replace the battery.

I would definitely look at the Toyota RAV 4 plug in, which fully loaded is about $40,000. But you would not need all those great options, and OH YEAH--it comes with a $7500 tax CREDIT.

Going to a hybrid or electric or any combination of it is a no-brainer. Going forward you won't even be able to buy gasoline powered vehicles. Both the Toyota and the BMW come with amazing warranties and I never paid for anything, and it has been almost 10 years.

[vintageogauge]

My wife drives a 2017 Honda Civic Touring with the turbo gas engine. She rarely goes on a highway and we have not reset the MPG since day one, with 27,000 city miles on the car the average is 35.6 mpg. and it's been stuck there for about a year now. Not bad for city driving.

[NancyLee]

"E=Fb The Musical Theory of Relativity." I love it! And so true. LOL

[Dana1963]

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe

My 2008 Honda CRV is getting a bit long in tooth and I am considering a new CRV, my understanding is hybrids show their worth in stop and go urban driving, 40 mpg advertised, but that's not the situation here in the Villages, my 2008 runs a consistent 26 , closer to the highway mileage mpg than city, can anyone with a newer CRV hybrid share their experience ? TIA

Just a little of topic “ Before Tesla: Why everyone wanted an electric car in 1905
What’s old is new again”

A brief history of electric cars: the most popular car of 1900 - Curbed

[fcgiii]

We sold our 2004 Toyota Sienna to Carmax for $1700 last month before relocating to the Villages. It had 240,000 miles on it nd was made in Indiana. We bought a 2016 RAV4 Hybrid expecting the Sienna to die, but it didn't. The RAV4 hybrid was made in Japan but since 2020 they have been made in Kentucky.

All Chryslers are made in Canada, alond with Dodge Challengers and Chargers, as is the Chevy Equinox. General Motors’ Mexican plants currently assemble the Chevrolet Cruze, Blazer, Equinox, Trax and Silverado along with the GMC Terrain and Sierra.

Buy American? Better do your research'

[Aviator1211]

I had a 2004 Prius for 15 years with 160k miles and never had a problem with batteries (not even even the 12V battery) or the hybrid system. The technology is well proven. We now own a 2020 Accord hybrid and are getting 50mpg city and highway. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a hybrid CRV.

[DangeloInspections]

I still miss my 2007 Prius. Just to add, the 2022 Hyundai Tucson is made in Alabama. They are also coming out with a plug in Hybrid, but sadly we are told they are only for now going to be sold in California, etc...not Florida. They will get over a $6k tax credit...(sigh). Driving the 2022 Tucson Hybrid with the two big screens, etc feels very Tesla-like.
I buy the bells and whistles because I like them, and here in Florida one can keep their vehicles a long time, as they do not rust away like I was used to up in NY. If I decide to keep a car for years, I want it to have everything I want it to have, without regrets.

[JerryLBell]

We replaced our CR-V gas model with a CR-V hybrid and are so far quite enjoying it. The cost difference between gas and hybrid was pretty minimal, especially when you consider their CR-V hybrid is all-wheel-drive (which normally costs extra). We get at least 10-12 mpg better than the gas model when driving around The Villages but only 4-6 mpg better when doing highway driving, which I understand is normal with hybrids but still feels strange.

If you think you want to stick with "tried and true" gas-powered models, buy relatively soon. Honda has said they they will be ALL electric (not just hybrid) in just a few years. So have a number of car manufacturers. Gas engines are going the way of coal. They will both have their fans and the transition will be disruptive to some, but they are both going away.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by igolf47

I have a 2017Honda Accord with 75,000 miles on it. I absolutely love getting 44-47 miles per gallon with zero issues. I plan to keep this car for 10-12 years. I am a firm believer in Honda and Toyota.

I have 2012 Honda Accord 4 cylinder. Get 26/37 mpg, uses zero oil, looks like new, drives and rides like new, aNd runs like new. This Honda could out last me, ( but, I religiously maintain it), but I get older and don’t like to crawl down in it my only reason I might another vehicle that sets higher.

My next choice’s Are Hyundai Santa Cruz, rav4? Not really fan of the 1.5/2.0 direct injection natural or turbo engines. not fan of Ford bronco or CRV’s for that reason. IMO so far too small, works too hard, and direct injection has had problem’s? If I had one I would religiously change the oil every 6 months minimum, especially if turbocharged? But, that’s me.

[TCNY61]

Originally Posted by tuccillo

This is slightly off topic because you specifically asked about a CR-V hybrid. You might wish to wait a year and take a look at the new crop of fully electric vehicles that will become available. Many will have a $7500 tax credit to offset the higher cost. While charging times on a road trip will take longer than refueling with gas, if road trips are not something you do frequently then it may not be an issue. Since you have an SUV already and are looking at another SUV, I will assume a sedan will not meet your needs. There are several fully electric SUVs available now and more coming next year.

Just read my latest car and driver magazine. Their long term Tesla has about 21,000 miles and the battery is down 7% capacity already probably from the quick charging. Also the cost of the quick charge stations works out to the equivalent of $8 a gallon. I don't look forward to electric vehicles!

[TCNY61]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

I have 2012 Honda Accord 4 cylinder. Get 26/37 mpg, uses zero oil, looks like new, drives and rides like new, aNd runs like new. This Honda could out last me, ( but, I religiously maintain it), but I get older and don’t like to crawl down in it my only reason I might another vehicle that sets higher.

My next choice’s Are Hyundai Santa Cruz, rav4? Not really fan of the 1.5/2.0 direct injection natural or turbo engines. not fan of Ford bronco or CRV’s for that reason. IMO so far too small, works too hard, and direct injection has had problem’s? If I had one I would religiously change the oil every 6 months minimum, especially if turbocharged? But, that’s me.

Some of the vehicles like Toyota have a second set of port injectors that at certain times in the combustion cycle inject fuel above the valves to clean them. This is to solve the problem with carbon on the valves since no fuel goes past them on a standard direct injection system.

[tophcfa]

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[tuccillo]

Apparently the typical pattern is a rather quick drop in battery capacity and then a leveling off. I believe 10-15% degradation at 200K miles is not unusual. There are apparently some Teslas still on the road with over 300k miles.

The average cost of the Tesla superchargers is 28 cents per kWh or about 2x what it costs to charge at home (14 cents per kWh around here). If you figure about 250 Whs per mile then the cost is 7 cents per mile for a Supercharger or 3.5 cents per mile when charging at home. YMMV. This makes the cost of a Tesla supercharger to be equivalent to paying $2.80 per gallon for gas (about the current price at the pumps) for a gas car that gets 40 mpg or about $1.40 per gallon if you are charging at home. Since most Teslas are mostly charged at home, the cost of driving is less than gas cars. The MPGe rating of over 100 is another indication of this. I am not sure where you got the $8 per gallon figure.

Originally Posted by TCNY61

Just read my latest car and driver magazine. Their long term Tesla has about 21,000 miles and the battery is down 7% capacity already probably from the quick charging. Also the cost of the quick charge stations works out to the equivalent of $8 a gallon. I don't look forward to electric vehicles!