[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

A few days ago, I was close to a construction site in TV. A food truck was there and I ordered some grub. And a large Coke. The server, apparently a bit deaf, asked if I wanted ice. I said yes. He didn't understand, so I yelled out "ICE!!!!". I then saw a bunch of guys running off roofs into their vans and scurry off. ... now it makes sense.

BTW, this is tongue in cheek folks.

I will bet many of the Native Americans when we first started landing on their shores had wished they had yelled out "smallpox". Of course, they would not have understood at first but soon would.

[CrazyTiki]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

A few days ago, I was close to a construction site in TV. A food truck was there and I ordered some grub. And a large Coke. The server, apparently a bit deaf, asked if I wanted ice. I said yes. He didn't understand, so I yelled out "ICE!!!!". I then saw a bunch of guys running off roofs into their vans and scurry off. ... now it makes sense.

BTW, this is tongue in cheek folks.

Best post in this thread!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I have been wondering that myself.

My brother went out to one of the yard workers and gave him a twenty to take care of the weeds. We looked out there and the weeds were still there and the landscapers had left. My brother commented "I guess he did not speak English"! When money is involved I bet he did.

Many of the roofers, landscapers and the like around here do not look like they grew up speaking English.

How can you tell by looking?

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

How can you tell by looking?

I would guess by nationality, given the type of work they were doing since we are told they are essential because Americans wouldn't lower themselves to do manual labor. Even though we know thousands/millions of Americans perform manual labor daily.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by asianthree

My Kentucky grandparents (both had one parent Native American) did not have a birth certificate just a bible.
All of their children birthed on the farm, in 1920-35 didn’t have a BC. Just recorded birth in same bible.
To date 3 survivors of 6 Do Not have a BC, only family bible, from early 1900s.

Yet acquired DL & SS# in their 20s. My guess is today technically could be deported, because of lack of full legal identification, as to place of birth. Early Descendants of Native Americans usually didn’t have BC of live births.

Rest assured that time of arrival, Bible notations, family history in the states, SS#, DL's and timeline would not cause deportation. I think common sense would indicate this wouldn't be the case.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by opinionist

Were any of these violent criminals, or are they getting to the employed illegals?
It seems like they should focus next on the illegals living off welfare.

What they need to focus on next is all illegals working here need to file taxes, pay in FICA and buy their own health care. (You will shortly find out why employers hire illegals and how your prices are increasing even with illegal labor.)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Kelevision

We’ve go to get them all out fast so we can make room for white South African immigrants who will need jobs but will definitely not be filling the construction and landscaping jobs.

Yeah they are allegedly all farmers - good luck to them. If they're taking jobs that Americans want, I'm sure there will be words exchanged. Farm workers earn more than minimum wage here in Florida and they can easily earn over $60k/year, if they're not seasonal.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by asianthree

My Kentucky grandparents (both had one parent Native American) did not have a birth certificate just a bible.
All of their children birthed on the farm, in 1920-35 didn’t have a BC. Just recorded birth in same bible.
To date 3 survivors of 6 Do Not have a BC, only family bible, from early 1900s.

Yet acquired DL & SS# in their 20s. My guess is today technically could be deported, because of lack of full legal identification, as to place of birth. Early Descendants of Native Americans usually didn’t have BC of live births.

So, that don’t relieve them from doing what’s required by state and federal law. I fine it unusual they had no identification until their 20’s? Was they home schooled? I wasn’t born at home not hospital in late late 40s. My mother left me with my grandparents neither drove or lived close to big city. Yet I have birth certificate. Where there Will there’s a way.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

If you were born in the USA or territories, this makes you a citizen. Even babies of the illegal construction workers who were born in the USA are citizens. The parents will be deported but not the children.

That is no longer true. Citizens have RECENTLY been deported, including children born in the USA, who would otherwise have been forcibly separated from their mother. This situation is going through the court system right now, but the events themselves have already occurred in the past few months.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Tustin714

There's always an apologists for illegal aliens. The laws in place now are fundamentally different from the 1800s, and the "thousands" you complain about are a TINY fraction of the tens of millions that have invaded over recent decades (especially the last 4 years!). A nation without borders is not a nation.

There are only around 50 million immigrants in the US, total, currently. That includes immigrants on work visas, other green cards, asylum-seekers, DACA recipients, and includes every immigrant recorded who immigrated decades ago and is still living today.

There are no "tens of millions that have invaded...(especially the last 4 years)."

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I will bet many of the Native Americans when we first started landing on their shores had wished they had yelled out "smallpox". Of course, they would not have understood at first but soon would.

They should have done what Spanish done….. when they landed in south, central, and southern America. All for greed of gold.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by DrMack

Those that are cheering this on should realize

That pool you were building by T and D, not anymore
Your lawn care, not anymore
The driveway you were in the middle of installing, oh well
The yard that is messed up by your landscaping job, it may stay that way
The beautiful plants on your roads, done over with
That roof you had blown off by the storm, get a tarp
That house you contracted for construction, add a year

I believe the mass exodus from Wildwood and Leesburg triggered by this raid is not going to be quite the result you were hoping for.

It's also scaring away LEGAL immigrants, who know darned well that their brown skin and foreign accent makes them prime targets of raids. There's already been plenty of those who have been deported, without due process. Just taken away, put in a detention center, then loaded up and shipped over to South America.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Any employer who doesn't withhold the payroll taxes for any employee is violating the IRS, Social Security, and Department of Labor laws. These are Federal laws that have nothing to do with the the state of Florida. There is no 10 employee cap for these Federal laws.

I bet subcontractors day labor adverts those laws. When you hire that licensed plumber do to report it to IRS, SS, DOL? Why not you hired him for contracted job? They are skirting law some how due all the illegals they getting caught. The subcontractors should also be arrested IMO.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

It's also scaring away LEGAL immigrants, who know darned well that their brown skin and foreign accent makes them prime targets of raids. There's already been plenty of those who have been deported, without due process. Just taken away, put in a detention center, then loaded up and shipped over to South America.

No it don’t. Nobody afraid LEGALLY entered county when they followed all laws and paperwork.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

It's also scaring away LEGAL immigrants, who know darned well that their brown skin and foreign accent makes them prime targets of raids. There's already been plenty of those who have been deported, without due process. Just taken away, put in a detention center, then loaded up and shipped over to South America.

Completely false, there aren't "plenty" who have been deported without due process. If you have your papers and live here as a US citizen, you won't need "due process".

I feel the hyperbole is over the top on this issue. Babies aren't forced out of their mother's arms. The mother is allowed to make her own decision whether to bring her child back to her native country or make arrangements for her child to be cared for by a US citizen, (which could be an aunt, grandmother, niece..) The mother knew the laws here when she entered and took a crapshoot with her child's life when she left her country. No one points that fact out and if the mother leaves now and applies to reenter the USA legally, she will have an opportunity to be a taxpaying citizen with her child.