[Talk Host]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

no problem, the insurance company has better things to do,then check your speed of your cart. relax, lots of nothing here.

You are wrong.

mrdills..I think you are wrong on the speeds. I had ours tested at the sheriff's testing day in Lake Sumter, (about a year ago). Ours was clocked at exactly 20mph and the Deputy said we were within the allowance of speed. If it exceeded 20mph we would have to register, etc. I was told up to 20mph was OK.

[otherbruddaDarrell]

Originally Posted by REH7380

mrdills..I think you are wrong on the speeds. I had ours tested at the sheriff's testing day in Lake Sumter, (about a year ago). Ours was clocked at exactly 20mph and the Deputy said we were within the allowance of speed. If it exceeded 20mph we would have to register, etc. I was told up to 20mph was OK.

That is because when you check the calibration on radar (every day) they allow plus or minus 1mph.
Since we are talking about 1/2 mph it is within the guidelines.
I think if they had someone running stationary radar and you were over 20mph (19.5) then you would stand the risk of being cited.
I was certified on MPH and Genesis radar operation and our units only read in 1mph increments..............newer units might register speed in fractions, but I don't know for sure.
If the police had a fast unmarked golf cart with radar they could have a field day out here.

[nitehawk]

I was just wondering what persent of the golf carts in TV do over 20 mph - seems to me its over 90%. I know just because everyone does it, its does not make it right.

[gratton]

Originally Posted by jkomoros

I'm tired of being passed by speeding golf carts in the golf cart lane. And when I'm passed, it's usually by a considerable amount. I wish everyone would stick to the rules and not debate nuances; we'd all be a lot safer. Speeding is speeding, and if anyone gets in a wreck because of someone else's souped up cart, I hope they sue big-time. Carts do not have the protection cars give us, so we all need to be careful of each other and drive safely.

Why does it bother you that you are being passed, Is it unsafe to be passed? How do you feel when you are in your car and are being passed, same difference, Theirs nothing more frustrating than a line of golf carts going 12-15 mph because the 1st 2 or three feel that its inconsiderate to pass.
That's my opinion

[paulandjean]

talk host, sorry you are wrong.never heard of insurance company doing a check for speed. seems you are little caught up in the hype

[ajbrown]

Originally Posted by gratton

Why does it bother you that you are being passed, Is it unsafe to be passed? How do you feel when you are in your car and are being passed, same difference, Theirs nothing more frustrating than a line of golf carts going 12-15 mph because the 1st 2 or three feel that its inconsiderate to pass.
That's my opinion

It bothers me when I am being passed and I am going 20 in my golf cart. It bothers me when I am passed when I am traveling 35 on Morse it my car. It bothers me when I am going 20 on Morse in my golf cart with someone 'drafting' me until they can cut out and pass.

I am working on not letting it bother me, but it is the same mentality used by drivers during rush hour on Route 128 in MA. It is simply NOT what TV is about.

BTW, it also bothers me that people drive carts down Morse at 13

Jeez, I thought I was a pretty relaxed guy....like I said I am working on it

[spk7951]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

talk host, sorry you are wrong.never heard of insurance company doing a check for speed. seems you are little caught up in the hype

I have a hard time believing that if someone has an accident and the police find that the golf cart was exceeding the speed it was designed for that the insurance company would overlook that information.

[mike barkley]

Originally Posted by jkomoros

I'm tired of being passed by speeding golf carts in the golf cart lane. And when I'm passed, it's usually by a considerable amount. I wish everyone would stick to the rules and not debate nuances; we'd all be a lot safer. Speeding is speeding, and if anyone gets in a wreck because of someone else's souped up cart, I hope they sue big-time. Carts do not have the protection cars give us, so we all need to be careful of each other and drive safely.

i drive an lsv but there is no way i can drive on rio grande at the posted speed limit of 25. the speeding cars harrass me to the golf cart lane. so im back and forth thru no fault of my own. so your complaint should be with the cars NOT the lsv's.

[BogeyBoy]

How about the speed limit in the golf cart lanes being 20 mph? And no vehicles with license plates allowed on the recreational trails? If you want to drive faster you drive in the regular traffic lane and play with the big boys.

When I'm driving my car at 35 mph in a 35 mph zone and some one is right on my tail it bugs me but that's life, no matter what roadway you are on there are speeders.

The speed limit on a lot of residential streets in TV is 15 mph, so if you have your peddle to the metal on just about any golf cart chances are you are speeding. In CYV areas often the speed limit is 10 mph. Pay attention and see how many people stay at those speed limits.

So, we're in a world of speeders. If the local law starts to write citations for speeding golf carts it will only be somewhat successful because they have no authority to cite someone on the recreational trails. Lets face it, as long as there is a road or recreational trail there will be speeders. (Can anyone really imagine driving on interstate 75 and everyone was driving at 70 mph or less?)

So if you're driving at the speed limit and someone is passing, let them pass and hope they get safely around you without causing an accident. (I recently was passed by a cart on a curve, his right front wheel came off the pavement as he passed me. I was sure I was going to be dialing 911. Soon I realized this was how he operated his cart, at every curve his right or left wheel came off the pavement. Remember, this is disneyland for adults, obviously this is his "E" ticket ride - for those of you who remember "E" tickets!)

[Talk Host]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

talk host, sorry you are wrong.never heard of insurance company doing a check for speed. seems you are little caught up in the hype

Okay, have it your way, but just because "you have never heard of it" doesn't make it fact. You may continue under your assumption. I think others should be much more concerned about their safety, the law and the possible consequence. You better hope you never get caught.

[BogeyBoy]

Originally Posted by spk7951

I have a hard time believing that if someone has an accident and the police find that the golf cart was exceeding the speed it was designed for that the insurance company would overlook that information.

This has been mentioned over and over. Does anyone have a documented case of either a golf cart or automobile accident where the insurance company refused to pay because the vehicle was not obeying a traffic law? I was involved in an accident some years ago where the driver of the other vehicle was cited. That means it was in writing that they broke the law, yet the insurance company paid the claim. One of my cars will do 140 mph so by this logic I will never have any problem with insurance claims with that vehicle. (I rarely drive over 140!)

Who determines "designed" maximum speed? I personally agree that golf carts are not designed to go over 20 mph. Brakes, steering, suspension, lack of protection, and tires are all factors. Just because you add seat belts and increase the power doesn't change the initial design of the cart. (When I see one speeding down the road I cringe at the though of their head hitting the pavement when they roll over. Sorry, that lap belt isn't going to help.)

[Lou Card]

You speed, the law comes into play.

For a contract (Insur), it must be stated in the contract that coverage will not be honored should you be speeding, smoking, texting, or even simply being a bad driver when an accident occurs. A contract stands as was written and intended at time of signing. Read your contract. What your agent tells you is often an opinion or a guess, but what is written and agreed too in a formal contract is the rule of enforcement of a contract

Lou

[BogeyBoy]

Originally Posted by Lou Card

You speed, the law comes into play.

For a contract (Insur), it must be stated in the contract that coverage will not be honored should you be speeding, smoking, texting, or even simply being a bad driver when an accident occurs. A contract stands as was written and intended at time of signing. Read your contract. What your agent tells you is often an opinion or a guess, but what is written and agreed too in a formal contract is the rule of enforcement of a contract

Lou

Okay, got my policy (contract) out and read it. There is no coverage: While any vehicle is operated in or used in practice or preparation for any: a. hill-climbing or jumping contest; or b. racing or speed contest.

IMHO there would have to be another vehicle racing for it to be a "contest". Or would they say I was practicing to be in said contest? Of interesting note, my automobile policy (contract) specifically says an "organized" race or speed contest.

This is why there are attorneys! If you and I say "let's race", is that organized? Or do they mean paying a $50 entry fee to race at your local racetrack?

[cabo35]

Very interesting thread. Controversial primarily because a variety of perspectives are subject to legal interpretations involving a body of knowledge that is emerging and not fully developed or clearly define. I found a short, interesting, safety oriented article that speaks with limited authority on golf cart safety issues. If one person benefits by reducing the potential for injury, it is worth the read. Here is one gem from the article.

"Dynamic simulations indicate that golf car yaw instability is not likely on flat ground and will not manifest itself during ANSI brake performance testing. However, for a vehicle with brakes on the rear wheels only, when the initial speed is 17 mph or higher, yaw instability can occur when traveling down a 10 degree slope when modest steering inputs are made. Such loss of control could easily cause the car to leave the path and either collide with, or tip over, nearby obstacles and path curbs."

http://www.technology-assoc.com/brie...bject=golfcars

Passenger ejection hazards and rollover hazards are also discussed in summaries that should raise the safety consciousness of advocates on both sides of the debate.

Stay safe in the Villages.