[Byte1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I guess it depends on what you mean by "miserable living in TV."

By that do you mean:

people who look at what was considered weeds where they came from, and miss the grass?

people who are confounded that they have to wash the outside of their house every few months to get the mold off the siding?

people who would love nothing more than to sit in the back yard watching the sunset but are viciously attacked by fire ants?

people whose only previous experience with cockroaches were the little ones in their studio apartment that they shared with 2 other people in a city walk-up during their senior year of college, and now are seeing the "big guys" raiding the fridge and making themselves at home on the couch?

people whose previous community involved a majority of drivers who used their turn signals consistently and correctly?

people whose previous community did NOT involve a bunch of political nuts plastering "This guy sucks" on their bumper stickers and golf cart windshields and raising "this guy sucks" flags on their flagpoles?

people who didn't need deed restrictions to know that it was important to maintain their yard, and that an entire block of white crosses was actually offensive to some of the neighbors so maybe put those things in the back yard instead?

people who are more concerned about their freedoms and rights than peaceful cohabitation with their neighbors?

My -neighborhood- where I live right now, is mostly peaceful, we get along, we help each other.

But there's one guy who has a big ugly metal trailer on his driveway - been there for a couple of months, with no sign of them preparing to move it. It's a storage trailer. OUR deed restrictions don't prohibit this. And yet - he's the only one in the entire section of the Villages where it's "allowed" that has one. Why is that? To me, it's because - he doesn't give a flying fart about the rest of the neighborhood. He's allowed, so dammit he'll do what he wants and to heck with everyone else.

We have another who has parties at their house every week, which would be okay except their pals block the driveways of the houses next to them, they're loud and obnoxious, none of them are over 50 (let alone 55), and they're slovenly. They don't -care- that their neighborhood, while modest in quality, makes some attempt at keeping the properties maintained and looking decent, and that they are the ONLY neighbors in the entire neighborhood that are like this.

They live in their own worlds, and don't care that the entire rest of the neighborhood has to deal with them. They don't care that their next door neighbor has to endure seeing the guy sitting in his lounge chair with no shirt, in his boxers with an open front fly, displaying his altogethers to whoever walks past or happens to be out in their OWN lanai next door, just trying to enjoy the weather with a cup of coffee.

I shouldn't have to move. I was here before those people. And if I moved every time I met a neighbor I didn't like in life, I'd be living in a tent somewhere by myself.

You can't pick your neighbors. Sometimes you're just stuck with them, like it or not. You can't choose who will drive in front of you on the road. Sometimes you're just stuck with morons who don't know their left from their right. You can't choose who will drive anywhere near you - there will be pieces of crap who will insist on paying attention to their cell phone instead of the road while they cut in front of you and come to a complete stop in the middle of the road, because they need to yell at their spouse who forgot to replace their hearing aid battery and can't hear what she's saying.

Does this make me miserable all the time? Of course not. I'm mostly a happy person. Does it make me feel miserable during the individual incidents? You bet. It harshes my mellow. Do I get over it? Yup, sure do. Usually a few minutes later.

Does it mean I should leave? Nope.

Does it mean you have to be able to relate to it? Nope.

I am, however, amazed by people who are incapable of comprehending why some folks have - human responses - to human experiences.

Wow, what a diatribe of an abundance of words that probably could/can be condensed into one or two sentences. I apologize for not reading it in it's entirety, because even though it was structured like a poem, it was NOT poetry.

[NotGolfer]

Back when I first came on ToTV there were "someone" who disparaged the community, the developer etc. I asked the question to one individual with "then why do you live here?" The answer that came back was "because I like the life-style!" Really?? My take is, you can't take it both ways. Some people will complain and gripe because they lack something within themselves. They can't find satisfaction with anything. Social media is an outlet for them (anonymously) to dump. What I would say to them....start a gratitude journal. List everything you're actually grateful for.....then see if the attitude changes.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by JoMar

Have met a couple of those here.....usually the wife loves it and the guy hates it. There is a solution to that but guys don't usually function well alone which is why they remarry and the women stay single. Good news is the haters are in the minority here.

More wisdom from my dad. If, you think you understand your wife you are wrong. Even if you do it will change shortly.

"The wife loves it and the guy hates it." i could write a book on that. First of all we allow the use of the word HATE, far too often. Not too long ago everything was awesome. The word was so over used that it lost all meaning. I do my best to keep my HATE LIST
empty. Empty so that when something qualifies for the list I can give it my full attention.
Right now it is empty.

You can find something to like anywhere. There is always the sport of trying to understand your wife.

Hate is a mindless yet powerful emotion. It feeds on itself. It is a MOB emotion. We see it endlessly HOW CAN YOU NOT?

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by DAVES

More wisdom from my dad. If, you think you understand your wife you are wrong. Even if you do it will change shortly.

"The wife loves it and the guy hates it." i could write a book on that. First of all we allow the use of the word HATE, far too often. Not too long ago everything was awesome. The word was so over used that it lost all meaning. I do my best to keep my HATE LIST
empty. Empty so that when something qualifies for the list I can give it my full attention.
Right now it is empty.

You can find something to like anywhere. There is always the sport of trying to understand your wife.

Hate is a mindless yet powerful emotion. It feeds on itself. It is a MOB emotion. We see it endlessly HOW CAN YOU NOT?

I think it depends on how much do you like to come home? If one of you is really unhappy, how long do you expect the other one to stay happy?

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by NotGolfer

Back when I first came on ToTV there were "someone" who disparaged the community, the developer etc. I asked the question to one individual with "then why do you live here?" The answer that came back was "because I like the life-style!" Really?? My take is, you can't take it both ways. Some people will complain and gripe because they lack something within themselves. They can't find satisfaction with anything. Social media is an outlet for them (anonymously) to dump. What I would say to them....start a gratitude journal. List everything you're actually grateful for.....then see if the attitude changes.

The Thanksgiving tradition. So much of this is not new. I find history interesting in that what we think are new issues are actually very old. As I've said people will always complain. Solutions posted are rare indeed. Someone mentioned Abe Lincoln. Abe Lincoln was the one to make Thanksgiving a national holiday. I don't think anyone does not agree that our citizenry is severely divided. Imagine how divided our people were at the end of the civil war? Almost every family lost someone or something. In a brilliant yet simple act, Abe Lincoln a great leader came up with the idea of a national day of thanksgiving. No one could object to that.

As far as social media. Most are one line. Posters, assume that you fill in the MISSING details with proper information and that you know or care to know their life history while we all hide behind anonymity . It is clearly a problem with no solution

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Velvet

I think it depends on how much do you like to come home? If one of you is really unhappy, how long do you expect the other one to stay happy?

As I regularly say, or try to say. All need to find their own answers. I'm no cockeyed optimist. Happiness is a choice.

[Byte1]

Honestly, I moved here to put some distance between us and family. Didn't like the drama. I do not care whether anyone else in the Villages likes it or not. I am fine with it, but I was also fine with my last home. What other folks think about the Villages doesn't matter because it has absolutely no effect on how I think of it. But, one of the many things that I do like that comes to mind is the fact that in every neighborhood in the Villages, there is ALWAYS a neighbor that is at home, in case one has an emergency. There is always someone in the neighborhood that "SEES" anything unusual happening. And there is always someone around to lend a hand when one needs assistance. Generally speaking, even though some are cold spirited persons from the proverbial "Northern" territories/states, they are good people. I don't know if it is just the general attitude here or what, but most folks that seem to be harsh still come thru when someone needs assistance or directions.
Yep, some neighbors complain about the "developers" but I ignore it. As far as I am concerned, after I purchased I did not need to have any association with the "developers." When I first moved here, I subscribed to the "Sun" but found that I was just recycling a lot of paper that I did not even get a chance to peruse. I discontinued it because it turned out to be a waste of a few bucks that could be used elsewhere. My spouse loves it here so that is all that matters to me. Keep your dogs off my lawn and I will have no complaints. I do not care about the stupid drivers, how you park or whether or not you knock down the gates because you are too stupid to stop. I don't care about decals on the mail boxes, or little white crosses in your yard. But, I do love it when family complains about the snow up North while I enjoy the sunshine on my legs when I wear shorts all year long. I also love it when I can go a whole year without observing a "gator" and when a family member visits, we suddenly see one that seems to be posing for us as we drive through the Villages. When you are granted years of time with your spouse that shouldn't have happened without God's intervention, you appreciate even the "grouches" in the Villages. Too bad that sharing your feelings with others doesn't always result in a change in their disposition.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Amazed at the number of people who seem to be miserable living in TV yet choose to remain...

If I was that unhappy living somewhere, I'd leave skidmarks... (no, not THAT kind... )

Let’s see? Joined in feb 2021? And now have villager’s figured out. Good job 👏.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by DAVES

As I regularly say, or try to say. All need to find their own answers. I'm no cockeyed optimist. Happiness is a choice.

Yes, but an unhappy spouse is in a great position to make sure the other one gets to share their view point.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Wow, what a diatribe of an abundance of words that probably could/can be condensed into one or two sentences. I apologize for not reading it in it's entirety, because even though it was structured like a poem, it was NOT poetry.

Her post-It seems like she needed to vent. I tend to wonder about people. Some just need to criticize. Both need to ask THEMSELVES why.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by DAVES

More wisdom from my dad. If, you think you understand your wife you are wrong. Even if you do it will change shortly.

"The wife loves it and the guy hates it." i could write a book on that. First of all we allow the use of the word HATE, far too often. Not too long ago everything was awesome. The word was so over used that it lost all meaning. I do my best to keep my HATE LIST
empty. Empty so that when something qualifies for the list I can give it my full attention.
Right now it is empty.

You can find something to like anywhere. There is always the sport of trying to understand your wife.

Hate is a mindless yet powerful emotion. It feeds on itself. It is a MOB emotion. We see it endlessly HOW CAN YOU NOT?

Yup! My wife was, at first, hesitant to live in TV, so we rented for two months. She spent most of the time there while I went back and forth (still working).

We wound up buying after 10-12 days of coming for our first trip (again, my wife was quite hesitant), but since we've settled on the house and been to our home 5-6 times, she can't wait to get back...

Just when you think you've figured them out...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Let’s see? Joined in feb 2021? And now have villager’s figured out. Good job 👏.

Well, some, not you of course, are as transparent and glass, so it's not very hard to do...

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Yup! My wife was, at first, hesitant to live in TV, so we rented for two months. She spent most of the time there while I went back and forth (still working).

We wound up buying after 10-12 days of coming for our first trip (again, my wife was quite hesitant), but since we've settled on the house and been to our home 5-6 times, she can't wait to get back...

Just when you think you've figured them out...

With us it was the opposite. It was my family and relatives who had lived here (for decades). My hubby lived in San Diego for some time and loves the ocean. It was up to me to see if he would be ok here. First, we checked out places to live all over the US, each place had both good and bad. Finally, he agreed to try out TV. First, he liked the climate, then he liked the neighbors. Next he liked the new golf cart, now he is thinking of serious golfing. And it goes on and on. These days he is a happy camper.

[BigSteph]

Thank you for your sage comments and opinions.

Originally Posted by DAVES

This post conflicts itself. Perhaps, a state of humanity for all of us. Robert Frost, the path not taken. I had a minor in psychology. Normal humans go through two stressful life periods. Around 15-18 what am i going to do with my life. Then, 50-???? what have I done with my life. That seems to be where most of these posts are.

Many ironies of life. Ponce de Leon came to Florida to discover the fountain of youth.
Florida is loaded with senior living-HUH?

The means or the energy? All the OLD lines apply. The world is your oyster. Where there is a will there is a way. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
Whatever you have there will be some with more and some with less.

I do not have the answers and if I did they would be my answers not the answers for others. I do perhaps see in many of these posts that some do not realize what the real problem is-it is them.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Let’s see? Joined in feb 2021? And now have villager’s figured out. Good job 👏.

Plus , most any topic……