[jamblu]

I was told only VLS agents can sell resale and that is what I did. On an upbeat .....I love my house!

[eremite06]

Originally Posted by jamblu

I was told only VLS agents can sell resale and that is what I did. On an upbeat .....I love my house!

Who told you that, a VLS agent?

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by bbbbbb

Hi, a Licensed Realtor, outside the villages, told us that it is certainly wise,,,,,,,,,,,,, and really mandatory that a person have an inside and an outside realtor at the same time to get the big picture. Only telling you this as it was told to us. Also, she said, outside realtors at agencies, must by law be licensed in Florida. The Village persons may or may not be,,,,,,, so that is all we know about it. We had both, they were both acceptable, we would lean a bit toward the outside if we do it again. Thanks bbbbbb

bbbbbb - thanks for the info. I knew that MLS agents are licensed. Are they licensed by the state or MLS though? And someone told me that VLS agents, although not MLS, must still take a qualifying state exam.

Does anyone know the status of the two agent types?

[outahere]

Originally Posted by dbussone

bbbbbb - thanks for the info. I knew that MLS agents are licensed. Are they licensed by the state or MLS though? And someone told me that VLS agents, although not MLS, must still take a qualifying state exam.

Does anyone know the status of the two agent types?

Agents outside of VLS are licensed by the state and must take a considerable amount of mandatory training before and after taking the licensing exam to get and keep their license. I have been told (by both a VLS agent and a MLS agent) that VLS agents are also licensed by the state, so are also subject to the education rules to get/keep their license. As a former Realtor in MA, this makes sense to me because they are dealing with a legal contract, whether it is for a new home or a re-sale.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by outahere

Agents outside of VLS are licensed by the state and must take a considerable amount of mandatory training before and after taking the licensing exam to get and keep their license. I have been told (by both a VLS agent and a MLS agent) that VLS agents are also licensed by the state, so are also subject to the education rules to get/keep their license. As a former Realtor in MA, this makes sense to me because they are dealing with a legal contract, whether it is for a new home or a re-sale.

Thank you. That makes sense.

[crabbyannie1]

It is my understanding that the people in TV home sales are not licensed real estate agents or brokers and are not. therefore, bound by State regulations regarding real estate brokers/agents. If you're having a problem, find out who her boss is and complain...loudly.

[manaboutown]

Although not a member of NAR I have been a licensed real estate broker in another state for 40 years. I had to pass a licensing exam to obtain my license; I must take continuing education courses, purchase errors and omissions insurance and renew my license periodically. The Real Estate Commission as it is called there investigates every complaint filed against a licensed broker or agent and acts to protect the public from unlicensed folks holding themselves out as real estate agents or brokers. If the OP is aggrieved and TV's sales agents are licensed by the state using the agent's name the OP could look up his/her license number and file a complaint with the state agency through which Florida real estate agents are licensed and policed.

OK: I just found the website for the Florida Real Estate Commission which provides a link to file a complaint. RE - FREC

[OpusX1]

You do not have to be liecensed to sell new homes for your employer but you do have to be liecensed to sell other people's property.
If as the OP stated she was not delivered the signed contracts, delivery is the final step, she should back out of the contract, the seller would then have a recourse against the agent. The OP only has a recourse if she was financially damaged by the agents neglect, like a penalty for not closing in a timely manner. There are bad apples in every profession.

[manaboutown]

I just checked to see if the TV agent who kept steering me to and showing me only new homes when I asked him to show me resales is licensed by the the state of Florida. He most definitely is!

[Vladimir]

Gracie...I'm with you. I'm still confused with the OP initial post. There seems to be a miscommunication and unclear expectations set between the OP and the agent and I'm sure there is more to this story then what has been posted.

[VillagerNut]

Originally Posted by eremite06

The "transaction broker," I feel, is an agency relationship that is a disservice to the customer. You don't even have to disclose it. The licensee can provide limited representation to a buyer, a seller, or both in a real estate transaction. He/she does not represent either in a fiduciary capacity. These laws of agency have evolved to suit more the licensees than the customer over the last 30 yrs. that I've had my broker's license. I think it's due to the lobbying efforts of NAR.

The transaction broker's duties do include:

Dealing honestly and fairly

Accounting for all funds

Using skill, care, and diligence in the transaction

Disclosing all known facts that materially affect the value of residential real property and are not readily observable to the buyer

Presenting all offers and counteroffers in a timely manner, unless a party has previously directed the licensees otherwise in writing

Limited confidentiality, unless waived in writing by a party

And who do you think the developer represents in all of their transactions? They work as a single agent for the seller of the new home which is themselves or the preowned which is a homeowner. They never ever have any representation for the buyer. When you as a buyer sign the contract with the developer you will sign a no representation paragraph that says they owe you nothing because they represent the seller at all times. So the MLS realtors at least owe you more while working as a transaction broker. All MLS realtors can represent the buyers as exclusive buyers agents if you asked them to do so. They also can represent the seller exclusively as a single agent with the broker's permission. But the end of the story is you need to work with a sales rep and an MLS realtor to see all the listings here. The title company never represents either party in the transaction. But the buyers can choose the title company if they want to pay for the title insurance themselves if working with a MLS Realtor. The MLS realtors majority do not have sour grapes because they cannot sell the new homes. Most of them make extremely good money selling strictly in The Villages! But as it was stated there are great Sales Reps and great MLS Realtors!

[VillagerNut]

Originally Posted by OpusX1

You do not have to be liecensed to sell new homes for your employer but you do have to be liecensed to sell other people's property.
If as the OP stated she was not delivered the signed contracts, delivery is the final step, she should back out of the contract, the seller would then have a recourse against the agent. The OP only has a recourse if she was financially damaged by the agents neglect, like a penalty for not closing in a timely manner. There are bad apples in every profession.

All of the developer sales reps are licensed in the state of Florida. I really don't understand the initial OP comments either. But they are all licensed but they are not Realtors! It is true that you can work for a developer and not have a real estate license but then you are paid a salary or a hourly wage but do not receive any commission when you sell anything. The Sales Reps here are not employees of the developer. They work on a independent contractor basis with a 1099 at the end of the year. Who almost the house or how long they've lived in it should not be a concern one behind the house. If they stretched the lanai or anything else I don't really rely on that information but only what I visually see. Not returning phone calls or getting a copy back to you of the executed contract is inexcusable for any sales person to do.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by VillagerNut

And who do you think the developer represents in all of their transactions? They work as a single agent for the seller of the new home which is themselves or the preowned which is a homeowner. They never ever have any representation for the buyer. When you as a buyer sign the contract with the developer you will sign a no representation paragraph that says they owe you nothing because they represent the seller at all times. So the MLS realtors at least owe you more while working as a transaction broker. All MLS realtors can represent the buyers as exclusive buyers agents if you asked them to do so. They also can represent the seller exclusively as a single agent with the broker's permission. But the end of the story is you need to work with a sales rep and an MLS realtor to see all the listings here. The title company never represents either party in the transaction. But the buyers can choose the title company if they want to pay for the title insurance themselves if working with a MLS Realtor. The MLS realtors majority do not have sour grapes because they cannot sell the new homes. Most of them make extremely good money selling strictly in The Villages! But as it was stated there are great Sales Reps and great MLS Realtors!

You know what I think? I think that there has been a lot of dissension on this thread started by and continued by disgruntled MLS agents. ONLY the reps for the Villages can sell the new homes here and the resales listed on The Villages site and you can say all you want about sour grapes, sour grapes do exist.

As a buyer I am glad to be able to choose. I have no loyalty to anyone and I LOVE the way I am not SOLD by the Villages rep. He answered all of our questions and never called us to push things along. He now stops by on our birthdays to chat. I like Jim McLaughlin a lot.

Do any of you remember that big meeting at Laurel Manor with an overflowing crowd five or so years ago with Janet Tutt and it was mostly about something to do with MLS. I think it was about the CDD and signage for homes for sale above 466. Always below 466 no yard signs were allowed, but they were at one time north of 466. I think that was it, but don't remember exactly. I still think that realtors that sell for nearby developments and those that are disgruntled start things on this forum sometimes.

Here is the issue; The Daily Sun July 31,2012 Districts discuss yard sign deed restriction

[mrdarcy]

I inquired once about licensing of Villages Priperties sales agents. The response was that some of the agents have Florida real estate licenses and some do not. Thus, you have to ask about the status of the individual agent with whom you're working.

[jamblu]

More to the story? Like what?