Insurance Question Insurance Question - Page 2 - Talk of The Villages Florida

Insurance Question

Closed Thread
Thread Tools
  #16  
Old 03-28-2019, 03:54 PM
retiredguy123 retiredguy123 is online now
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,572
Thanks: 3,080
Thanked 16,735 Times in 6,623 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosells View Post
The listing agent represents the seller. The buyers agent represents the buyer and owes his full fiduciary duty to his client, the buyer.
Your agent should be answering those questions. Regards to flood insurance your agent should know if your in a low area that was previously flooded as with the last hurricane. Some properties on high ground may not need flood insurance, if you were in silver lake area you were flooded out. I’d be asking my real estate agent these questions, not random people.
All licensed real estate agents have a fiduciary responsibility to all parties involved in the transaction. But, that is different from representing the buyer as his/her legal "agent". In a typical real estate transaction in Florida, the seller pays the entire commission, not the buyer. Buyers should understand that, even though an agent is showing them properties and answering questions, the agent almost always acts as the agent for the seller and has a legal contract with the seller. There is no contract between the agent and the buyer, and no legal representation, because the buyer does not pay any money to the agent.
  #17  
Old 03-28-2019, 04:02 PM
retiredguy123 retiredguy123 is online now
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,572
Thanks: 3,080
Thanked 16,735 Times in 6,623 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by seoulbrooks View Post
Good Explanations;

What Every Floridian Should Know - Florida has more sinkholes than any other state in the nation. A recent change in Florida law requires authorized insurers to cover “catastrophic ground cover collapse,” but damage caused by a sinkhole may not be covered by your policy.

That’s because the law defines catastrophic ground cover collapse differently from sinkholes.

Florida law defines a sinkhole as “a land form created by subsidence of soil, sediment, or rock as underlying strata are dissolved by groundwater. A sinkhole may form by collapse into subterranean voids created by dissolution (the dissolving) of limestone or dolostone or by the subsidence as these strata are dissolved.”

“Catastrophic ground cover collapse” is defined as “geological activity that results in all of the following: 1). The abrupt collapse of the ground cover; 2). A depression in the ground cover clearly visible to the naked eye; 3). Structural damage to the building including the foundation; and 4). The "insured structure being condemned and ordered to be vacated" by the government agency authorized by law to issue such an order for that structure.”

This means that if your home is damaged by sinkhole activity, but does not meet all four criteria for catastrophic ground cover collapse – for instance, you may have foundation cracks, but the home is still livable – your insurance may not pay for the damage if you do not have sinkhole coverage.

All insurance companies licensed to do business must offer sinkhole coverage, usually as an addendum or rider to an existing policy, and for an additional premium charge. However, insurance companies may require an inspection before extending coverage. If sinkhole activity is present on the property or within a certain distance of the property to be insured, the insurance company may decline coverage.

Hope this helps - Get them to condemn and kick you out!
As I said, the legal definitions are as clear as mud. If you don't have the sinkhole coverage recommended in the posted video, good luck getting the insurance company to pay the claim.
  #18  
Old 03-29-2019, 11:30 AM
Garywt Garywt is offline
Soaring Eagle member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 2,013
Thanks: 4
Thanked 2,003 Times in 721 Posts
Default

I passed on the title insurance but the bank has it. I have hurricane coverage and both sink hole coverages. I think the simple sink hole has a deductible of $10k but the other is $500 or something like that. Did not go with flood and hopefully that is not a mistake but the Village water system is all connected so the ponds are somewhat self leveling. We closed through the mail, the bank sent us everything, we signed and sent it back, no attorney used.
  #19  
Old 03-29-2019, 11:38 AM
retiredguy123 retiredguy123 is online now
Sage
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,572
Thanks: 3,080
Thanked 16,735 Times in 6,623 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garywt View Post
I passed on the title insurance but the bank has it. I have hurricane coverage and both sink hole coverages. I think the simple sink hole has a deductible of $10k but the other is $500 or something like that. Did not go with flood and hopefully that is not a mistake but the Village water system is all connected so the ponds are somewhat self leveling. We closed through the mail, the bank sent us everything, we signed and sent it back, no attorney used.
The bank's title insurance will protect the bank, but won't protect you, if the title is found to be defective. You would need an owner's title policy, but I can understand why some people don't buy it on a new house. But, I once bought a pre-owned house that did not have a clear title because a previous owner had sold the house without getting his estranged wife to sign the deed. If the title search had not revealed the situation, title insurance would have been useful.

Last edited by retiredguy123; 03-29-2019 at 12:00 PM.
  #20  
Old 03-29-2019, 09:42 PM
GatorFan GatorFan is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: The Villages
Posts: 766
Thanks: 12
Thanked 24 Times in 15 Posts
Default

Best talk to a licensed insurance agent to get correct answer about sinkhole coverage. Ask for copy of actual sinkhole endorsement. Catastrophic ground collapse has its own form.

If you qualify there are companies offering deductible as low as $500.00 for sinkhole. Deductible offered is based on how the company filed with State of Florida in their rating.

Most companies filed 10% of coverage A and some filed with deductible same as your all perils deductible.
  #21  
Old 03-29-2019, 10:05 PM
jcvdd1 jcvdd1 is offline
Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 95
Thanks: 1
Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts
Default

I sincerely appreciate all the information provided regarding insurance for a newly purchased home in The Villages.

Would you guys be so kind as to explain “Golf Cart Insurance”. What type of insurance would be recommended for Golf Carts and usual limits on policy.

THANKS !
  #22  
Old 03-29-2019, 10:23 PM
GatorFan GatorFan is offline
Veteran member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: The Villages
Posts: 766
Thanks: 12
Thanked 24 Times in 15 Posts
Default

Your liability is no different than your auto exposure. Limits should be enough to protect your assets in the event of a liability claim. .
  #23  
Old 03-30-2019, 08:35 AM
Carla B Carla B is offline
Sage
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,807
Thanks: 53
Thanked 725 Times in 389 Posts
Default

If you apply for an umbrella policy that company will dictate the limits of liability you must have on the underlying policies, i.e., auto, golf cart, residence, etc.
  #24  
Old 03-30-2019, 10:32 AM
drstevens drstevens is offline
Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Lancaster, Ohio (near Columbus) & Chicago
Posts: 61
Thanks: 9
Thanked 57 Times in 20 Posts
Default

I have American integrity homeowners insurance for a two bedroom, two bath, courtyard villa and the rate increased from $498 to $629 which I thought was high.
I have been getting quotes and the best one is from a company called “National Specialty Insurance Company” administered by “Velocity” for $488 for the same coverage. Has anyone ever heard of them or had experience with them?
  #25  
Old 03-30-2019, 09:55 PM
sallybowron sallybowron is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 410
Thanks: 71
Thanked 57 Times in 35 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jcvdd1 View Post
While not mandated for the cash purchase of a new, never lived-in home from The Villages Corporation, what are your suggestions on purchasing / not purchasing the following at closing:

Title Insurance
Flood Insurance
Using an attorney at closing
Homeowners insurance

Thanks
IMHO


Yes
No
no
yes
  #26  
Old 03-31-2019, 07:25 AM
Challenger's Avatar
Challenger Challenger is offline
Soaring Eagle member
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,283
Thanks: 56
Thanked 377 Times in 168 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sallybowron View Post
IMHO


Yes
No
no
yes
agree with these
__________________
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" Edmund Burke 1729-1797
  #27  
Old 04-01-2019, 06:16 AM
jgreen12 jgreen12 is offline
Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 33
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

purchase Flood now or in the next few months. They won't issue flood ins if there are any hurricanes in the ocean. Also they require you to wait 90 days before it goes into effect. House ins should cover hurricanes. (house ins covers falling water, flood ins covers rising water.)
  #28  
Old 04-01-2019, 10:20 AM
C-Pet C-Pet is offline
Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 23
Thanks: 11
Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts
Default

Clarifying about The Villages Sales Agents and Realtors: The only people who can sell you a NEW house in The Villages are licensed Sales Agents who work for the Developer of The Villages. As you can imagine, their first loyalty is to the Developer, not the buyer. They are not Realtors; Realtors are members of the Board of Realty, these are the people who work for places like ReMax, Grizzard, etc. The Developer does not allow them to sell his new houses in The Villages. In other areas of Florida some other Developers do allow Realtors to sell their homes and some do not. So in summary, they may have the same State of Florida Sales Agent license but who they work for is an important consideration. (I am a retired Realtor.)

Last edited by C-Pet; 04-01-2019 at 10:22 AM. Reason: improve clarity
  #29  
Old 04-01-2019, 11:59 AM
ouatiny ouatiny is offline
Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 34
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

this link has good info re: sinkholes https://www.poa4us.org/bulletins_fil...etin201808.pdf
lawyer if you need one it should have been before you signed the purchase contract
flood ins home own ins only you can answer this if there is any damage to your home even if fire burns it to the ground no insurance your bank account pays so your answer is ?

Title ins if there is any thing wrong with the title to your property you loose the property Period end of discussion. welcome to the Villages
  #30  
Old 04-01-2019, 07:42 PM
THUNDERCHIEF THUNDERCHIEF is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 133
Thanks: 3
Thanked 37 Times in 19 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jcvdd1 View Post
while not mandated for the cash purchase of a new, never lived-in home from the villages corporation, what are your suggestions on purchasing / not purchasing the following at closing:

Title insurance
flood insurance
using an attorney at closing
homeowners insurance

thanks
you should have homeowners ins. Prior to closing if you want immediate protection. The rest is up to you. Is this your first house?
Closed Thread

Tags
insurance, purchasing, title, suggestions, flood


You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Click here to revert to the old version.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:45 AM.