[ConeyIsBabe]

Peachie......... I'm the wannabee who personally knows no one from The Villages Florida, nor have I verified any information expressed on TOTV. I'm not on anyone's side, on any issue regarding TV. All I know is what I read here.

But, I am very disturbed about the Talk Host's experience with the choo-cho train noise and how it has impacted his lifestyle, resulting from disclosure omission.

Peachie..... I respect your opinion and would like to know your thoughts regarding this issue.

[chelsea24]

Great question Peachie! Now let's see if we get an answer.

Personally, I love it here and can't say enough about it. In a sense, the Schwartz-Morris family is a benefactor, in that they had a vision and created this beautiful environment for us to live in. I don't feel put upon or cheated. I don't begrude them their profits as some do. I simply feel blessed. :bigthumbsup:

[Peachie]

No one feels worse than we do regarding TH's experience, it's dreadful and I don't know how long ago they purchased their property but, hopefully, the real estate market in The Villages will appreciate and TH will be able to at least recoup the money invested and sell his home at that point. That being said, I think excitement got in the way of thoroughly investigating the area prior to purchase. And that's not a judgment against TH, we have all had some occasion where action preceded all the homework... We have owned 6 homes and lived in 9 different residences and made it a point to thoroughly scour the area for any issues that we couldn't live with and sometimes the issue would build next to us after we lived in a home for awhile.

We were never told there were good/bad neighborhoods by anyone in our four visits to The Villages prior to purchasing and we talked with many, many visitors. The people did say that it was important to check out the different areas, that there are different taxing districts, sewer locales, train locale and many other details. (We didn't know about TOTV at that time).

You need to come to The Villages first of all and see if it lives up to your vision. If The Villages lives up to your expectations, then you can investigate the different areas and find the comfort zone for your level of involvement and activities. Unfriendly to some people is privacy to other people. Not everyone wants a block party, neighbors on the patio or a pool within ten steps or even ten blocks. We all want different things in life, that doesn't make us bad, we simply need to choose what works for us. (Personally, we like the block party/neighbor thing very much and lots of golf).

Bottom line, come and visit wav ! Do investigate the local government and yes, the POA.
This is a decision only you can make and if it takes 2 or 3 visits, so what? There are worse places, IMHO, to spend your time. Oh, and continue to tune into the TOTV. Good luck CIB and keep your home listed, you never know!!!

[graciegirl]

I can't comment on the train but having built and bought several new homes in our lives we have had the choice to buy next to empty space or what we knew and could see. I know that Ohio has disclosure LAWS and you can be sued if you do not disclose things like water in your basement. I don't think you have to tell if your neigbors are raucous and loud and raise snakes in their basement.

My take on the train is that it is a shame that Jan bought in such a noisy area. I don't know what Florida's disclosure laws are, but it would seem that I, me, GracieGirl couldn't sell real estate if I knew that a train was running and beeping. I would have to tell it.
It just sounds unethical not to.

I don't really think that someone as smart as you seem to b would have anyone pull the wool over YOUR eyes. Talk Talk Talk to everyone when you get here. Tell the rep if she is keeping something from you, you will send your Cousin Vinnie to call on her.

I don't think there is a lot to worry about. Just don't move near Jan. My street has some nice houses, I think. There are no for sale signs. AND no sold signs so it is hard to know.

I have friends who have lived here for eleven years and they are still crazy about it.

[samhass]

Well said, Chels. I love it here!!

Originally Posted by chelsea24

Great question Peachie! Now let's see if we get an answer.

Personally, I love it here and can't say enough about it. In a sense, the Schwartz-Morris family is a benefactor, in that they had a vision and created this beautiful environment for us to live in. I don't feel put upon or cheated. I don't begrude them their profits as some do. I simply feel blessed. :bigthumbsup:

[renielarson]

How is Mr. Morse different than other developers anywhere else in this vast country of ours? Once a residential section is developed, decisions are given to the homeowners and the developer bows out. It happened to our rural subdivision where I live now and the decision making relies on the homeowners association.

This isn't brain science and nothing new.

[Peachie]

Exactly, Bright.

[samhass]

Peachie said "No one told Mr. Peachie and me when we bought our villa we bought a shopping center too, hmmm."

Hey Peachie, which one did you buy??? Any good sales going on?? 1rnfl

[Peachie]

We sold the office/apartment rental building we owned last year, lol, and we are happy. We would just like to shop in the stores if we become threadbare, no ownership please!

[ladykathleen]

RE: Peachie's reply to Best Mom,

Peachie, do not make sport of Best Mom's reply to me? shame on you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best Mom you are numbered among those who care to make sure we maintain our promised lifestlye. Peachie, why would I and others buy here in the Villages? , the usual "pat" answer; stars in my eyes, too busy to read the documents , knew nothing about CDDs, considered this the greatest place to live.

Would I have bought? Yes probably, because what was promised then would be wonderful today. Had I been more knowledable I would have become involved immediately in working toward making changes in laws. As I said earlier I did speak directly to Morse in a meeting. You and others because of "US" who work toward making sure we are informed and work for equitable Florida laws will reap the benefits of our work and time.

Peachie, have you attended your and others districts meetings????? Do you understand the Florida law written for developers which I heard was put into law for Disney. Do you understand what Hometown Democracy is for?????????

[`willy]

The amenity decisions are currently made by commercial-based landowners in The Villages, and the developer continues to sell portions of the commercial district to foreign stakeholders. In the fall of 2006, Rolling Acres Plaza sold for $40 million to TMW Weltfonds Rolling Acres Plaza LP, an affiliate of Atlanta's Prudential Real Estate Investors based in Germany. The newly built plaza had been open for less than a year before the sale

http://www.ocala.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a.../1131/REPORTER

I think this is what was being referred to.


Willy

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by ladykathleen

RE: Peachie's reply to Best Mom,

Peachie, do not make sport of Best Mom's reply to me? shame on you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best Mom you are numbered among those who care to make sure we maintain our promised lifestlye. Peachie, why would I and others buy here in the Villages? , the usual "pat" answer; stars in my eyes, too busy to read the documents , knew nothing about CDDs, considered this the greatest place to live.

Would I have bought? Yes probably, because what was promised then would be wonderful today. Had I been more knowledable I would have become involved immediately in working toward making changes in laws. As I said earlier I did speak directly to Morse in a meeting. You and others because of "US" who work toward making sure we are informed and work for equitable Florida laws will reap the benefits of our work and time.

Peachie, have you attended your and others districts meetings????? Do you understand the Florida law written for developers which I heard was put into law for Disney. Do you understand what Hometown Democracy is for?????????

OH Peachie. : :dontknow:

[Peachie]

Oh, it's ok, Graciegirl!! Lol. :bigthumbsup: I think if anyone reads my posts, they know I adhere to the belief we must be involved and to work positively toward change.

And now Kathleen, I'm ashamed of nothing. This is about issues, not egos, please remember that. We did not ever own any of the shopping centers. Period. You say you are well read and informed so surely you know that to be a fact. You must also be very aware of the scope of foreign investments in the United States and that businesses and properties are sold by development people every day. The problem here seems to lie within the laws of the CCD's and that may be the area were the changes should be positioned. And if the law is effected that those changes are implemented, we will pay for all the excellent amenities, golf courses, entertainment and so on, in other ways. Quite simply, there is no such thing as a free ride. No developer, property management company or whomever will absorb the huge costs associated with these features. Whether the costs are hidden in other areas or our bonds, we will be paying the price for fine living. Also, foreign companies are not going to buy shopping centers to drive us all out of the area. What would be the point?

Best Mom, do not send private messages to me regarding your impressions of the mental health or personalities of other posters. I am only interested in The Villages in this forum and have NO interest in that type of dialogue.

In the end, I will enjoy my life as I go, vote and support and necessary changes that will continue to improve our community.

[graciegirl]

Peachie.

Logical thought. Articulated perfectly. Succinct. Appropriate. Well said.

[ladykathleen]

Peachie,

I did not say we owned the shopping centers. And no there is no "free "ride , did I imply thats what I thought when I moved here? And now you are writing on a more positive note and more involved in knowing just what does happen with the CDDs and have noted that some changes could be made.
Because there is "no free ride", I am one who will be very sensitive to changes made to our as you say "fine living" here. I do not know hoiw long you have lived here, but our "fine living" was actually nicer years ago. You still have your "fine living" because we the residents have taken action to protect our rights and now monitor our monies.