[Boomer]

Guess what. We are waaaaay “down the road”………….

Sweeping legislation, decades ago, with no backup plan…….now, here we are.

What would Ronald Reagan say if he could see what is happening all these years later?

Boomer

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

If you don't care where they go, then I'll suggest to them that there's a lovely lanai they can sleep on, at your house.

What's that? You don't want them at your house? Okay - the next door neighbor. Or across the street. Or at the other end of your neighborhood. Or behind your rec center. As long as it's not "wherever they are at the moment" you don't care. So I'll not care either. As long as YOU don't live in MY neighborhood, the homeless can go ahead and live in YOUR neighborhood. There. Problem solved.

They have to go somewhere, and they don't have cars.

Why do you feel it is anyone else's responsibility to provide a place for them to go? I don't know about now, but years ago we had a Loitering and Vagrancy law. A cop could move you along or arrest you if they wished if you were hanging out around someone's private property.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Why do you feel it is anyone else's responsibility to provide a place for them to go? I don't know about now, but years ago we had a Loitering and Vagrancy law. A cop could move you along or arrest you if they wished if you were hanging out around someone's private property.

There may still be loitering laws, especially if a "no loitering" sign is posted. I think the vagrancy laws were abolished during the civil rights movement. Small Southern towns would pass a law that anyone found on the street with less than $50 in their pocket could be arrested for vagrancy. This, of course, was just another form of racial discrimination since that group at that time probably didn't have $50. Most other people probably didn't carry $50 on them either, but they wouldn't be stopped by local police.

However, I wouldn't be opposed to similar law as long as it was equally enforced on all races and religions----but it probably wouldn't be needed---we could just enforce the trespassing laws.

[gobuck827]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Not an accurate representation.

You can legally request Asylum in America ONLY at international bridges or ports of entry, basing your request on the fact that your life or well-being is in jeopardy in your country of origin based on one of the following four reasons:

Also not accurate. From the USCIS web site;

"To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status."

Obtaining Asylum in the United States | USCIS

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Why do you feel it is anyone else's responsibility to provide a place for them to go? I don't know about now, but years ago we had a Loitering and Vagrancy law. A cop could move you along or arrest you if they wished if you were hanging out around someone's private property.

I don't think it's anyone else's responsibility. It was a question of logistics, not of morals. I wasn't asking where the police will drop them off. I wasn't asking where we feel they /should/ go.

I'm asking - in the most literal sense possible - where do you think they WILL go, if they are ordered to leave the place they currently occupy? Where do you expect them to show up? Are you okay with them showing up in your back yard? Because - if they're not in "location A" they will certainly need to go to "location B." And if those homeless people decide that your back yard is a perfect "location B" to be, then that's where they'll show up next.

My question is because - they are in "Location A." They weren't born there. They weren't raised in the woods by wild boars or whatever else you think is in those woods. They WENT there. That means they CAME FROM somewhere else.

If you kick them out of there, they will need to go - somewhere else.

My question is - where do people presume these homeless people will go, once they are no longer to be where they currently are?

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I don't think it's anyone else's responsibility. It was a question of logistics, not of morals. I wasn't asking where the police will drop them off. I wasn't asking where we feel they /should/ go.

I'm asking - in the most literal sense possible - where do you think they WILL go, if they are ordered to leave the place they currently occupy? Where do you expect them to show up? Are you okay with them showing up in your back yard? Because - if they're not in "location A" they will certainly need to go to "location B." And if those homeless people decide that your back yard is a perfect "location B" to be, then that's where they'll show up next.

My question is because - they are in "Location A." They weren't born there. They weren't raised in the woods by wild boars or whatever else you think is in those woods. They WENT there. That means they CAME FROM somewhere else.

If you kick them out of there, they will need to go - somewhere else.

My question is - where do people presume these homeless people will go, once they are no longer to be where they currently are?

Portland, San Francisco???

[Babubhat]

215 replies and no pictures or visual documentation. Really?

[YvonneandScott]

We ate at Giovanni’s tonight. There was a man with a buggy full of all of his belongings resting on the sidewalk. He was homeless and overweight. For some reason when I think homeless I always thought of malnutrition. Not the case today at 5 pm. Looked like a tent in his buggy with his belongings. IDK, but that’s on Wedgewood down from Ace Hardware. So it’s not just south.

[Mrs.Guy]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

215 replies and no pictures or visual documentation. Really?

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[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I don't think it's anyone else's responsibility.
I'm asking - in the most literal sense possible - where do you think they WILL go, if they are ordered to leave the place they currently occupy?

Easy answer, they will follow the path of least resistance that supports their lifestyle. On to the next spot, looking for handouts and/or lack of law enforcement.

If the laws are enforced everywhere, and the hand outs dry up, guess what, maybe they will actually apply for one of the many jobs that are currently available and get a legitimate place to live? Wouldn’t that be nice!

[Sabella]

Normal?

[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by Boomer

Guess what. We are waaaaay “down the road”………….

Sweeping legislation, decades ago, with no backup plan…….now, here we are.

What would Ronald Reagan say if he could see what is happening all these years later?

Boomer

He would probably say he wished he hadn't de-regulated the the financial services industry, which led to the Savings and Loan Crisis and financial collapse of 2008. Oh, and his trickle down philosophy of cutting taxes on the wealthy, didn't work then, and doesn't work now. Just sayin'....

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

He would probably say he wished he hadn't de-regulated the the financial services industry, which led to the Savings and Loan Crisis and financial collapse of 2008. Oh, and his trickle down philosophy of cutting taxes on the wealthy, didn't work then, and doesn't work now. Just sayin'....

And I thought it led to the greatest economic boom of the last 50 years---silly me
And 1982 caused 2008????? Hmmm......... May make sense since 2022 is causing "1984"

[Love2Swim]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Easy answer, they will follow the path of least resistance that supports their lifestyle. On to the next spot, looking for handouts and/or lack of law enforcement.

If the laws are enforced everywhere, and the hand outs dry up, guess what, maybe they will actually apply for one of the many jobs that are currently available and get a legitimate place to live? Wouldn’t that be nice!

Um, how would they do that if they are battling diseases like alcoholism and drug addiction, and mental illness? Many cities just don't offer sufficient needed services to treat these conditions. Estimates are that about 40% of homeless men are veterans. Do we just turn our backs on these people?

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

Um, how would they do that if they are battling diseases like alcoholism and drug addiction, and mental illness? Many cities just don't offer sufficient needed services to treat these conditions. Estimates are that about 40% of homeless men are veterans. Do we just turn our backs on these people?

Diseases? Don't think you can catch any of the conditions you mentioned.
I can't understand why all the God fearing, Bible quoting Super Christians from the "What happens when I die" thread" are not down at the bridge offering comfort and shelter.
Many are on this thread looking for ways to kick them out.
Not very Christian!