[Babubhat]

Watch Kevin Hunter the homework guy on YouTube for tips. Or your auto advocate.

Visiting the J dealership was beyond unpleasant experience.

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NEW CAR PRICES ARE INSANELY HIGH! 20% of Car Deals are seeing $10,000 or more in added profits! Stick around for the end,

[retiredguy123]

I checked a few new cars on KBB.com for the recommended fair price. They are no longer suggesting a fair price, so apparently many vehicles are selling for above the MSRP. Not a good time buy a new vehicle.

[DeanFL]

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I would prefer to go to the funeral parlor rather than a car dealer. Politicians, Lawyers, Car Dealers. Top 3 slime-artists of conniving groups and sucking people dry.

Glad we have an great newer low miles SUV we like.

I sometimes look thru some of the used cars ads in the Sun. So funny that they're advertising many cars with OVER 100,000 miles. Certainly their used car stock is low. And their Ask prices are ridiculous.

Oh, allow me to add, rather go for a root canal too...
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[justjim]

Nobody should go to any dealership to buy a new vehicle without doing due diligence prior to their visit. That said, If you are there to only get your vehicle serviced and approached by a salesperson simply immediately let them know you have no interest in purchasing another vehicle. If they “linger”, be polite but forceful that you have no interest. Walk away and get yourself a cup of coffee and approach your service representative to find when your vehicle will be done. It doesn’t matter if it’s Jenkins or any other dealership this would be my way of handling the situation. I have purchased many cars and you can have an enjoyable buying experience. I have walked away a few times and moved on when it was not.

[Malsua]

My friend works at a Subaru dealer, every car on the lot has a $1500 dealer up charge. They have 8 new cars on the lot, normally it'd be about 50.

It is, what it is.

Either wait for prices to settle or understand that inflation is here and this is the result.

[Gpsma]

Why is the OP looking for a higher end car now and complaining? Current car breaking down? Need a new high end car to impress someone? Or just isnt keeping up to whats happening now and needs to complain?

We all probably remember the original oil shortage in the early 70s..when we all drove gas guzzling american cars. Some people ran over to the Japanese manufacturers...and were lucky if they could buy the gas saving little car for MSRP.

[davem4616]

come on, car dealers have operated this way for decades..

you want an high end vehicle, you either pay the price or someone else will

[biker1]

Attempting to uncharge over MSRP has nothing to do with inflation and everything to do with supply and demand. Supply is constrained by chip shortages. If the dealer had a full lot of cars he would not be attempting to upcharge over MSRP.

Originally Posted by Malsua

My friend works at a Subaru dealer, every car on the lot has a $1500 dealer up charge. They have 8 new cars on the lot, normally it'd be about 50.

It is, what it is.

Either wait for prices to settle or understand that inflation is here and this is the result.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by biker1

Attempting to uncharge over MSRP has nothing to do with inflation and everything to do with supply and demand. Supply is constrained by chip shortages. If the dealer had a full lot of cars he would not be attempting to upcharge over MSRP.

But they would of course find other ways to pick your pocket.

[biker1]

Yep, the real money is made once you sit down with the finance guy and they attempt to sell you everything from extended warranty packages to gap insurance to fabric sealant to paint sealant to pin striping to, well, you get the picture. I personally like to make counter offers on all those things; "My offer is this: nothing". It keeps the conversation moving along.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

But they would of course find other ways to pick your pocket.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by LateBoomer

so I contact a local dealer (a Jenkins, but they are everywhere) about a particular luxury SUV on their site, that listed a price of about $66,500 (which is higher than the company says the MSRP should be but i get it - different times right now). They said sure come on by.

Now I know there has been some "market adjustments in prices" - but guess what this car LISTED on their site actually cost? $79,500!! and that was BEFORE another $1000 (dealer fee), and taxes, etc. What should have been a $73,000 car after taxes was actually an $85,000 car!

$12,000 markup due to supply and demand.

Of course it's worse. They have a big poster in the sales office - about how their Internet price is "guaranteed" and they pay the average of Kelley BB and Edmunds for trade-ins. We had two trade-ins. Kelley and Edmunds average for clean fairly new cars (both 2020 vehicles) said that we should have got between $54-$55K . they offered a whopping $49K!! so much for higher prices for used cars?

Honestly, I know that inflation was a bit out of control. And dealers could be shady...but glibly adding $12,000 to a new car's price, and under-valuing a used car by thousands?

very shady practices. We decided to sit tight with our existing cars until things are normal again.

are people really paying this much more over MSRP? Never seen it in my life...or is this just a Jenkins thing around here? very very sneaky to add this to the price actually on your website!!

Beware, people!!!

IMO normal dealership bait and switch tactics. IMO you never get want want for trade in and it you do they just up price on car you want. Bottom line their not going to trade unless they make thousands. Pandemic or not.

[patfla06]

I have not and will not EVER pay over retail price, not for any car.

[jswirs]

Originally Posted by LateBoomer

I get it. supply and demand.ut be HONEST bthen when you're posting prices on the internet. instead of so wildly dishonest. if they posted the actual price, I guess people wouldn't show up?? but how dishonest is it to not post the actual price?? something new...

i was offended. PO'ed. even when they immediately came down off their 'market adjustment', i doubt I would buy from this dealership. ever.

again, targeted because I'm a Villager? I have no idea.

but i've never been as annoyed at a dealership in the 35 years since i bought my first new car as I was today.

I even said that? your poster on the wall? about your prices? about trade-in values? it's a lie

I grew up in the 50's, when "Honesty is the best policy", was practiced, most of the time. But we are now living in a different time. Too bad for us seniors, we have become "Soft targets".

[camaguey48]

Originally Posted by jswirs

I grew up in the 50's, when "Honesty is the best policy", was practiced, most of the time. But we are now living in a different time. Too bad for us seniors, we have become "Soft targets".

Only if you let yourself get bamboozled by these guys. Research the car you want. Personally, I'd rather buy a car no older than three years from an individual seller and I have been successful in getting a fair price. If it's a win win for buyer and seller, then it's all good.
It's time consuming but it's worth it. By the way, I keep my cars for a long time (10 + years) and I make sure to maintain them regularly. The car looks good and a pleasure to drive; doesn't matter how old it is. It's cheaper to do that than to pay over inflated prices for a vehicle to take you from point A to point B the same as the one you own now.

[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by LateBoomer

so I contact a local dealer (a Jenkins, but they are everywhere) about a particular luxury SUV on their site, that listed a price of about $66,500 (which is higher than the company says the MSRP should be but i get it - different times right now). They said sure come on by.

Now I know there has been some "market adjustments in prices" - but guess what this car LISTED on their site actually cost? $79,500!! and that was BEFORE another $1000 (dealer fee), and taxes, etc. What should have been a $73,000 car after taxes was actually an $85,000 car!

$12,000 markup due to supply and demand.

Of course it's worse. They have a big poster in the sales office - about how their Internet price is "guaranteed" and they pay the average of Kelley BB and Edmunds for trade-ins. We had two trade-ins. Kelley and Edmunds average for clean fairly new cars (both 2020 vehicles) said that we should have got between $54-$55K . they offered a whopping $49K!! so much for higher prices for used cars?

Honestly, I know that inflation was a bit out of control. And dealers could be shady...but glibly adding $12,000 to a new car's price, and under-valuing a used car by thousands?

very shady practices. We decided to sit tight with our existing cars until things are normal again.

are people really paying this much more over MSRP? Never seen it in my life...or is this just a Jenkins thing around here? very very sneaky to add this to the price actually on your website!!

Beware, people!!!

Don’t just give up on your search shop at other dealers. You didn’t mention the make of vehicle just that it was a luxury vehicle but I bought a Honda Ridgeline at Honda of Ocala for 8k less than Jenkins’s best price. Also you should sell the other vehicles yourself instead of trading them. It’s a great time to sell good used vehicles