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Old 08-16-2021, 06:42 AM
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so I contact a local dealer (a Jenkins, but they are everywhere) about a particular luxury SUV on their site, that listed a price of about $66,500 (which is higher than the company says the MSRP should be but i get it - different times right now). They said sure come on by.

Now I know there has been some "market adjustments in prices" - but guess what this car LISTED on their site actually cost? $79,500!! and that was BEFORE another $1000 (dealer fee), and taxes, etc. What should have been a $73,000 car after taxes was actually an $85,000 car!

$12,000 markup due to supply and demand.

Of course it's worse. They have a big poster in the sales office - about how their Internet price is "guaranteed" and they pay the average of Kelley BB and Edmunds for trade-ins. We had two trade-ins. Kelley and Edmunds average for clean fairly new cars (both 2020 vehicles) said that we should have got between $54-$55K . they offered a whopping $49K!! so much for higher prices for used cars?

Honestly, I know that inflation was a bit out of control. And dealers could be shady...but glibly adding $12,000 to a new car's price, and under-valuing a used car by thousands?

very shady practices. We decided to sit tight with our existing cars until things are normal again.

are people really paying this much more over MSRP? Never seen it in my life...or is this just a Jenkins thing around here? very very sneaky to add this to the price actually on your website!!

Beware, people!!!
I'll never go back to Jenkins Hyundai. Went in with a car knowing what it's worth, sales manager offered $12,000 so I got up to leave he offers $22,000 so I laughed and got in my car. He then knocked on my car window and offered $31,000, that's when I decided I'll never do business with them ever! Went to Phillips GMC there first offer was $30,000 which I accepted and bought one of there cars.
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I hate car dealers, bunch of vultures and we're the prey.
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If people want it badly enough and not willing to wait they will get it.
It made its first debut at the February 1989 Chicago Auto Show where it was an immediate success. It drew thousands of onlookers eager to pay the $13,800 sticker price. Powering the MX-5 Miata was a four-cylinder dual-overhead-cam engine offering 116 horsepower.

I was at a local bar in Orlando in 89 listening to a woman telling how Her new Miata would be in tomorrow for only 25 thousand buckeroos..
Worked in car business for a while for a guy that was buying new corvettes and reselling them for a couple of grand over sticker late 70’s early 80’s..
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:22 AM
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I won't beat around the bush and I hope that the moderators don't delete my post, but simply put; JENKINS IS THE WORST NEW CAR DEALERSHIP.

In MY opinion and in the opinion of many on this board, JENKINS specially targets the elderly as they see them as an easy target for big profits. Granted all businesses strive to make a profit, but this dealership has a long history, based upon hundreds of post by fellow Villagers on this site to target fellow Villagers with unprofessional underhand sales tactics in order to screw their customers out of their hard earned money.

As a fellow Villager, please do yourself a favor and shop OUTSIDE the bubble when purchasing a vehicle and you will quickly see that there are still many honest new car dealerships left. Additionally, THIS is not the time to purchase a new vehicle. Wait, fix your current vehicle, support a local mechanic and wait to purchase a new vehicle after everything clears-up.
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:25 AM
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so I contact a local dealer (a Jenkins, but they are everywhere) about a particular luxury SUV on their site, that listed a price of about $66,500 (which is higher than the company says the MSRP should be but i get it - different times right now). They said sure come on by.

Now I know there has been some "market adjustments in prices" - but guess what this car LISTED on their site actually cost? $79,500!! and that was BEFORE another $1000 (dealer fee), and taxes, etc. What should have been a $73,000 car after taxes was actually an $85,000 car!

$12,000 markup due to supply and demand.

Of course it's worse. They have a big poster in the sales office - about how their Internet price is "guaranteed" and they pay the average of Kelley BB and Edmunds for trade-ins. We had two trade-ins. Kelley and Edmunds average for clean fairly new cars (both 2020 vehicles) said that we should have got between $54-$55K . they offered a whopping $49K!! so much for higher prices for used cars?

Honestly, I know that inflation was a bit out of control. And dealers could be shady...but glibly adding $12,000 to a new car's price, and under-valuing a used car by thousands?

very shady practices. We decided to sit tight with our existing cars until things are normal again.

are people really paying this much more over MSRP? Never seen it in my life...or is this just a Jenkins thing around here? very very sneaky to add this to the price actually on your website!!

Beware, people!!!

Here's a thought, unless you drive 12 hours per day, those 2020 vehicles are probably in like-new condition. Keep them.
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:29 AM
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Jenkins Honda Leesburg
I decided I wanted to buy my leased 2018 Civic, which has a residual of $12,400 which is what was on my contract. Jenkins wanted $13,700. for me to buy it. That included sales tax, other taxes, and $999. handling fee, which was ridiculous. So I thought maybe I should trade for a new 2022. Sticker was $26K they added a $5000. market adjustment and another $5000 worth of accessories which took the sticker to about $37K, for a $26k window sticker Civic!!
I called Honda credit to buy out the lease, and they told me that the price I would pay them was $12,400., sales tax was already included in the number. I asked that's all? Yes that's what we need a check for.
Not only price gouging, but illegal to charge me for sales tax twice.
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The next 'Rip" begins the first time you need service and talk to the so called 'Service Rep" Not a mechanic, his/her job is to up sell stuff you clearly don't need. ie: cabin and engine filters. Most likely his/her compensation is based on some sort of sales compensation.
And then you have to follow up see if they actually done what they was supposed to. I find that 1/3 dealerships can’t even change the oil correctly. They overfill. How many actually pull dipstick and check after service? I bet less than 20%. So IMO 80% have no clue what to say no on or even know it they done what they was supposed to.
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Here's a thought, unless you drive 12 hours per day, those 2020 vehicles are probably in like-new condition. Keep them.
Some people trade before first oil change is due.
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:40 AM
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Have you checked the price on USED vehicles? I've been searching for month for a tow vehicle for a small camper. Looking as far back as 6 years old they are priced over $30,000 and have 150,000 to 200,000 miles. I've looked at everything from large SUVs to trucks to mid-size and even looked at smaller campers for the tow weight. The used card market is terrible right now. We've decided to wait another year before buying anything ~ new or used!
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:42 AM
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Stay away from them. Had a similar situation.
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:43 AM
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In 16 years of living in The Villages, I have never been able to deal with Jenkins. Try Bill Bryan dealerships. Production was down in 2020 because of the pandemic. The market will change. Be patient!

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so I contact a local dealer (a Jenkins, but they are everywhere) about a particular luxury SUV on their site, that listed a price of about $66,500 (which is higher than the company says the MSRP should be but i get it - different times right now). They said sure come on by.

Now I know there has been some "market adjustments in prices" - but guess what this car LISTED on their site actually cost? $79,500!! and that was BEFORE another $1000 (dealer fee), and taxes, etc. What should have been a $73,000 car after taxes was actually an $85,000 car!

$12,000 markup due to supply and demand.

Of course it's worse. They have a big poster in the sales office - about how their Internet price is "guaranteed" and they pay the average of Kelley BB and Edmunds for trade-ins. We had two trade-ins. Kelley and Edmunds average for clean fairly new cars (both 2020 vehicles) said that we should have got between $54-$55K . they offered a whopping $49K!! so much for higher prices for used cars?

Honestly, I know that inflation was a bit out of control. And dealers could be shady...but glibly adding $12,000 to a new car's price, and under-valuing a used car by thousands?

very shady practices. We decided to sit tight with our existing cars until things are normal again.

are people really paying this much more over MSRP? Never seen it in my life...or is this just a Jenkins thing around here? very very sneaky to add this to the price actually on your website!!

Beware, people!!!
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:45 AM
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One thing I never do is to go into the salesperson's little cubicle. That is one of the first things I tell them. I always stay the lounge area. They hate that.
How about a half hour limit to come to terms from the parking lot and the one hour to prepare the car then another half hour to complete the deal with the main criminal. The closer.

These Florida Dealerships are brutal. It’s a crime what’s going on now.The car I had my eye 👁 on is $210 more per month than a friend paid for the same car about 10 months ago. Their selection is a grand total of 5 new cars on the lot and gouging is supposed to be verboten but I dunno, I guess they know how to get away with it.

Anyway I always limit my time and know once you are in their office they think they’ve got you.

I need a new car like I need a hole in the head. I’m bored. I’m sticking with what I’m driving now. That was the game plan 3 years ago. The car has 18000 miles on it an that includes 4 trips to N.J. that accounts for hall of that mileage. I love a new fancy car every two years but have to remember that I’d rather have a newer Golf Cart instead.

Best of luck to the OP.
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:48 AM
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Dealers have been charging above MSRP for ever . All they need is a willing buyer. Find another dealer or wait until prices fall. My thoughts are ." If we have way more days behind us then in front of us and you can afford it pay the price and enjoy life while we can.
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:50 AM
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Jenkins Honda Leesburg
I decided I wanted to buy my leased 2018 Civic, which has a residual of $12,400 which is what was on my contract. Jenkins wanted $13,700. for me to buy it. That included sales tax, other taxes, and $999. handling fee, which was ridiculous. So I thought maybe I should trade for a new 2022. Sticker was $26K they added a $5000. market adjustment and another $5000 worth of accessories which took the sticker to about $37K, for a $26k window sticker Civic!!
I called Honda credit to buy out the lease, and they told me that the price I would pay them was $12,400., sales tax was already included in the number. I asked that's all? Yes that's what we need a check for.
Not only price gouging, but illegal to charge me for sales tax twice.
I'm confused. Why would you pay Jenkins to buy out a lease, if their name is not on the lease contract? Also, if they charged you sales tax of 6 percent on $12,400, or $744, plus a $999 fee, it seems like the total would be $14,143, not $13,700. What am I missing?
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:53 AM
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Car dealers are a business not a charity . Supply and demand . All the dealers in the country are getting high prices and this dose not make them criminals . Houses , cars and food are at all time highs . If you don't like the price don't buy. No need for name calling
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