[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by tvbound

The best and most hilarious part being, the "entitled" poster actually thanked you! LOL Methinks he doesn't quite understand your dead on comment on his post.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

That's assuming that ALL the workforce doing jobs in the Villages are HONEST. Some, not so much. Some work as landscapers or lawn cutters by day and come back at night to rob and pillage. What a surprise, some people don't like RICH, entitled, old caucasian people - hard to blame them. Some residents in the old days did NOT even lock their doors when they went out. Today, you NEED security cameras and hidden safes. And going for a several-day trip somewhere and having newspapers pile up is like saying, "please, please break in.

I've had security systems, stopped newspapers when away, and locked my doors for decades... My parents did the same when I was a child...

I't not an issue unique to TV...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

How about the increased cost of Police protection? Unless someone thinks that the crime rate for young people isn't higher than for retired people.

Paid for by the increased tax revenue the new residents pay into the system...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

A highly skilled tradesman could have been paid less than $11 per hour - IN FLORIDA - probably NOT up NORTH.

Not according to the Google Machine"...

https://www.cisco.org/wp-content/pdf/IBEW90513.pdf

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The problem IS that ALL around the country EMPLOYERS are having trouble getting enough employees at the wages that they have become accustomed to paying. Note : real wages with respect to inflation have stagnated for about the last 15 years. However, in the last 2 years, the EMPLOYEES have realized that they have SOME small amount of POWER and they are asking and getting small wage increases.
.....it seems unavoidable that both YOUNGER residents and live-in-the-bubble workers will be an increasing part of life in the NEWER southern regions of the Villages. And just as an aside, both groups may be interested in new sports and activities and less in the longer, bigger GOLF courses. We talked about that in another thread. Face it TV Land is EVOLVING. And that is NOT necessarily a BAD THING.
.......I believe the reason that there are fewer available WORKERS has something to do with the Pandemic because this worker shortage started AFTER the Pandemic. I have NOT heard the exact reason as to WHY many workers got out of the labor market ???????
......It is possible that here in the Villages and especially in the new southern region that the Village Administration decided that they NEEDED to entice workers to come or stay in this area, (WITHOUT greatly increasing their wages) by providing them good local housing benefits. I do NOT know that for a fact, just my guess.

REAL WAGES were at an ALL TIME HIGH until about 2 years ago...

And contrary to what you THINK, REAL wages have DROPPED in the past year, due to the RECENT massive inflation, which was extremely low just a few years back (1.4%, IIFC, vs 8.9% last Summer/Fall)...

And The VILLAGES isn't PROVIDING anything. They are building houses for sale to families. And exactly what jobs are the villages supplying at minimum wage (other than part time rec center and golf course jobs)?

And new sports? You mean like "rock climbing" and "roller blade obstacle courses"? AKA, "broken hip specials"? We get it, you hate golf, but your incessant bashing and false claims about the sport are getting tiresome...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

University and College Presidents and their staff make WAY too much money. But, people want DESPERATELY to get an education and a degree so that THEY, in turn, can make the BIG bucks. It's kind of like a human hampster wheel.

Yes, all of those "gender studies" degrees will get them the BIG bucks, working at Starbucks...

But I'll agree on university staff wasting money... The administration costs for colleges have SKYROCKETED, with no effect on the quality of education...

"Between 2004 and 2014, the University only expanded the number of tenured or tenure-track faculty by 8 percent. During the same period, administrative faculty grew by a whopping 60 percent."

Administrative bloat, budget mismanagement explain UC’s falling global rankings - Daily Bruin

"During the 1980-1981 school year, public and private institutions spent $20.7 billion in total on instruction, and $13 billion on academic support, student services and institutional support combined, according to data from the National Center for Educational Statistics. By the 2014-2015 school year, total instructional costs had climbed to $148 billion, while the same grouping of administrative expenses had risen to $122.3 billion."

Bureaucrats And Buildings: The Case For Why College Is So Expensive

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I NEVER liked the concept of tips when I figured they were STUPID at about 7th grade. But, I am an outlier.

I'm sure your waitstaff appreciates that...

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by RICH1

Why all of a sudden do Villagers need to subsidize Workforce Housing apartments? Plenty of places to live in surrounding towns that house and support the working men and working ladies.. Changing the fabric of a Retirement Community will only cheapen the quality of Retiree life by creating more expenses to draw from a fixed income. Raising the minimum wage has become more than my High Skilled Tradesmen career I had 10 years ago! And this Tipping thing is over, do your job and make me a pizza

If you really were paid only $11/hour 10 years ago as a "high skilled tradesman" then you were either a) grossly underpaid or b) not skilled at all.

*I* was paid more than that as a part-time office associate 10 years ago, as an entry level employee in an electrician's office. I did the payroll. I know what the actual "high skilled tradesmen" made 10 years ago. It was around $28/hour. Plumbers were making $55/hour. A journeyman printer was earning around $20/hour in their first year, up to $45/hour after 20 years work in the same company. Carpenters were making more than $20/hour. Roofers - more than $15/hour. Construction workers - definitely more than $20/hour, that's union work.

So - you were either being cheated, or you are misrepresenting your own abilities.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Please clean your own place or get a smaller place. You can't complain about those who you are creating a magnet for by paying them.

But you CAN complain about not getting enough for your money...

We have a cleaning company in TV (and up North).

The one in TV comes when the boss is down for more than a month. Fair price, for an excellent job.

Same with up north. A much bigger home, so it costs more. Again, a fair price for excellent work. Add to than, the same women have been coming for about 15 years, and we don't have to worry about theft...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Please clean your own place or get a smaller place. You can't complain about those who you are creating a magnet for by paying them.

Also, Some people are not physically able to do the work to scrub toilets and such...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I doubt that there is a simple LINEAR relationship between the population of any city or area like The Villages and the tax money NEEDED to be collected. For example, it takes MORE equipment and specialized people to fight 5 story fires than all single story. Most everything has a bell-shaped curve, so some amounts of population would be more or less efficient than some other points. For example, younger families would have more children than senior residents , therefore requiring more schools, classrooms, and buses.
..... A lot of factors would have to be analyzed to determine the optimal quality of life and the most efficient use of taxes. Growth for growth's sake might NOT be optimal.

And who is it that is paying to build those brand spankin' new schools, that will able to handle more than DOUBLE the # of students, right off 470?

Let's see, I knew it yesterday...

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Boomer

Maybe it's time to think about stepping away from that television "news" -- spun to make viewers angry.

Ever notice how those obscenely paid "news" deliverers hammer -- hammer-- hammer -- tapping into the emotional part of their viewers' brains -- winding up their fans into a heightened state of negative emotion (anger, panic, fear, paranoia)?

Sometimes that constant pounding will tip viewers into a state of urgency -- gotta do something, gotta do it NOW.

Ironically, that constant tapping into negative emotion is the same method used by scammers -- but those who buy into it on a screen of their own choice can't seem to see the parallels. It's all emotional manipulation for money, lots of it. All from the same playbook.

I know someone whose husband spends so much time in front of television "news" that it is changing his personality by negatively affecting his mood, day after day. She cannot convince him to connect the dots, to see the cause-and-effect -- and turn off that &%$#ing television.

Lucy Boomer (Advice 5 Cents)

yes, totally agree, and good post! That's why I stopped watching local /national news, and stuck with financial and sports news. . . My intuition says you are doing well with the behavioral finance and economics. .

[Kgcetm]

You don’t have to tip. And if you do, you decide how much.

[mkjelenbaas]

Originally Posted by RICH1

Why all of a sudden do Villagers need to subsidize Workforce Housing apartments? Plenty of places to live in surrounding towns that house and support the working men and working ladies.. Changing the fabric of a Retirement Community will only cheapen the quality of Retiree life by creating more expenses to draw from a fixed income. Raising the minimum wage has become more than my High Skilled Tradesmen career I had 10 years ago! And this Tipping thing is over, do your job and make me a pizza

Help me out - where are some of the areas that you mention where the work force could live - just wondering.

[RosiePosie]

Originally Posted by Charlie'sDad

The cleaning ladies gave me an estimate of $120 for 2 Bedrooms, 2 bath rooms, kitchen, open dining/living room and den. They (there were 3 of them) were here for 45 minutes !!! That's over $40 an hour. Did they clean very well ? NO. They are not coming back.

Could you please share the company name.