[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MrChip72

I did a rough napkin calculation that they could be pulling in close to $1M in yearly gross revenue from their range based on how many people I see using it.

I have no idea how much their range costs to run, but I can't imagine it's that much when it's all mats and balls are dispensed by an unmanned machine.

Who fills the "unmanned" machine?
Who collects the balls used to fill the "unmanned" machine?
Who sells the tokens to put in the "unmanned" machine?
What is the cost of maintaining and eventually replacing the "unmanned" machine?
How much electricity is used by the "unmanned" machine
And lastly, and this is actually a biggie, how much does liability insurance for a range with "unmanned" machines cost?????

[Dusty_Star]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Is that because of the different weight of the ink needed to print those numbers????

To be sure, an 11 has twice as much ink as a 1 & it's louder

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by TerryCamlin

Enjoy folks I will stay happily forever North of 44.

And the people from the south will come north to play golf. Not happy about it but that is where the golf courses are!

[MrChip72]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Who fills the "unmanned" machine?
Who collects the balls used to fill the "unmanned" machine?
Who sells the tokens to put in the "unmanned" machine?
What is the cost of maintaining and eventually replacing the "unmanned" machine?
How much electricity is used by the "unmanned" machine
And lastly, and this is actually a biggie, how much does liability insurance for a range with "unmanned" machines cost?????

It's essentially a vending machine. The same concept as the ones in TV except you can pay directly with a credit card without needing to go into the pro shop to get a token.

All of the costs you've mentioned above are required at any driving range whether it's unmanned or not.

[MrChip72]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

And the people from the south will come north to play golf. Not happy about it but that is where the golf courses are!

The crowd that I golf with south of 44 for the most part will rarely bother booking a tee-off in the north section for Executives. It's just not worth the hassle and the 5 Executives south of 44 are all quite good and usually in decent condition.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

For the current number of teaching pros, yes. Do you think we could support 33% or 50% additional teaching pros year round?

Where do you hear that there will be 33-50% additional pros year round?

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

See the post about golf being a dying sport. Is it a sport?

Why don’t you ask John Rohm, who just got over a half a billion dollars to play golf. Wondering how much scratch the best pickle ball players are raking in without counting their second jobs?

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by melpetezrinski

South of the turnpike has a lot of great amenities but there is NO WAY "south of 466A will have more executive courses than north of 466A within a few years". If I had to guess, I would say 10-12 years.

And it’s very safe to assume there will NEVER be anything close to the number of holes per rooftop.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MrChip72

It's essentially a vending machine. The same concept as the ones in TV except you can pay directly with a credit card without needing to go into the pro shop to get a token.

All of the costs you've mentioned above are required at any driving range whether it's unmanned or not.

My point exactly----the cost is about the same whether you get the balls from a machine or someone hands them to you.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

And it’s very safe to assume there will NEVER be anything close to the number of holes per rooftop.

True, the market is evolving, that trend is evident starting with the Brownwood region South of 466A.

I haven't done the math, but it seems the holes per rooftop below 44 is similar similar to the Brownwood region?



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[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

Where do you hear that there will be 33-50% additional pros year round?

I didn’t hear that.
My point is, the driving ranges all serve teaching centers. For teaching pros to come work in TV, they want to be able to teach 12 months. The number of teaching pros here now, can do that, they teach all year.

The topic of this thread is there are not enough driving ranges.
IF TV build say twice as many driving ranges, would the teaching pros at those driving ranges be busy all year?
I do think the new range (and teaching center in Eastport) will be busy.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by MrChip72

I did a rough napkin calculation that they could be pulling in close to $1M in yearly gross revenue from their range based on how many people I see using it.

I have no idea how much their range costs to run, but I can't imagine it's that much when it's all mats and balls are dispensed by an unmanned machine.

456 buckets per day, every day, regardless of weather?

I think that's a little optimistic, don't you?

If they averaged 100 buckets a day, I'd be shocked.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Why don’t you ask John Rohm, who just got over a half a billion dollars to play golf. Wondering how much scratch the best pickle ball players are raking in without counting their second jobs?

Jon Rahm is in the entertainment business, not the golf business & he didn't really get $600 million.

[jedalton]

Machines are not really unmanned someone has to pick the balls clean them and then load the machine and if it gets stuck they have to come and fix it

[MrChip72]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

My point exactly----the cost is about the same whether you get the balls from a machine or someone hands them to you.

Most basic driving ranges aren't really that expensive to run. There's owners in the US claiming they've run theirs for 100k/year or less.

Just makes me think they could've replaced a putt and play or an archery location with a driving range and you would end up with more happy people overall.