[Chellybean]

Originally Posted by roob1

Chellybean stated earlier:

"Gracie i usually don't argue with you But to the fact that community standards doesn't give out there name is 100% wrong on your part they absolutely do if you ask! Second as i said they hold all the cards..."

How do you figure they hold all the cards, when a complainer identifies themselves? The complainer holds the pertinent card. They can choose to identify themselves or remain anonymous.

What i meant by who holds all the cards is Community Standards holds all the cards,once the complaint has been put in motion

Back in kindergarten it was called being a tattle tale. Is it wrong? No. Is it childish? Yes.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

What i meant by who holds all the cards is Community Standards holds all the cards,once the complaint has been put in motion

Chelly, by no means did I mean to disrespect your views but only to correct a very common rumor. You can remain anonymous if you report someone who you think has ignored the deed restrictions.

FW...I do not mean to disrespect you either, but....Tattletale? Whistleblower? Some lawn ornamentation is not pleasing to many people. And some is just plain trashy.

I think some people don't notice lawn ornamentation, and some do. I love the whole "look" of The Villages. I like when you drive down a street here, you see miles and miles of well kept homes and lawns.

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by fw102807

Back in kindergarten it was called being a tattle tale. Is it wrong? No. Is it childish? Yes.

Snitch, Rat, Coward, -------
That is the mantra of many who have violated some rule. Others would see alerting competent authority of a possible violation as Civic duty. They are not "accusers" only eyes and ears of those charged with enforcement responsibility.

[Mikeod]

Here’s another view of the problem. Let’s say your neighborhood either likes or tolerates a yard feature that violates the deed restrictions. Someone from a different neighborhood drives in to visit or maybe just looking at landscaping ideas (very common IMO) and sees the feature. They assume it’s OK, since it’s still there. So they go ahead and put something similar in their yard. Repeat this many times per day, week, month and the problem is epidemic.

There are many residents who accepted the deed restrictions although it meant altering their desires for home and yard decor. But they accepted these restrictions to safeguard their property value and keep the community beautiful. I would ask those who think it’s fine to ignore the restrictions on lawn ornaments what other deed restrictions we can ignore and what ones should be rigidly enforced. The answers to those questions would reveal the chaos that would ensue.

[Groomjo]

I am in Fenney in a courtyard villa and will definitely be calling the villages regarding a house that has at least 15 lawn ornaments. It's an it's an eyesore and looks like a 8 year old decorated it. I hate to do it but we live so close to each other you would think that people would have some common sense.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I looked at a few of the deed restriction documents. They all say that lawn ornaments are prohibited except for seasonal displays for 30 days. I guess someone could make a case that the front patio is not part of the lawn, or that something hanging from the eve is not a lawn ornament. I didn't see any definition for a lawn.

It would seem that as long as the ornaments are changed every month and have something to do with whatever holiday is celebrated that month it would comply with the deed restriction.

January - New Years, MLK, or winter themed ornaments
February Valentine's Day
March - St Patrick's Day
April - Easter
May Springtime or Mother's Day, Memorial Day
June Graduation or Father's Day
July- Independence Day
August - Summertime
September - Back to School, Labor Day
October - Octoberfest, Halloween
November - Thanksgiving.
December - Christmas, Hanukah, Kwanza

I wonder if anyone will try this.

Where I live we have no such ban on lawn ornaments.

Actually, if you're interested in more,

Holidays and observances in United States in 2019

Originally Posted by Mikeod

Here’s another view of the problem. Let’s say your neighborhood either likes or tolerates a yard feature that violates the deed restrictions. Someone from a different neighborhood drives in to visit or maybe just looking at landscaping ideas (very common IMO) and sees the feature. They assume it’s OK, since it’s still there. So they go ahead and put something similar in their yard. Repeat this many times per day, week, month and the problem is epidemic.

There are many residents who accepted the deed restrictions although it meant altering their desires for home and yard decor. But they accepted these restrictions to safeguard their property value and keep the community beautiful. I would ask those who think it’s fine to ignore the restrictions on lawn ornaments what other deed restrictions we can ignore and what ones should be rigidly enforced. The answers to those questions would reveal the chaos that would ensue.

I simply believe that TV created the restriction and TV should be enforcing it. If a cop sees someone speeding is he going to wait to see if someone reports it? I think it is a ridiculous and unfair system to only target people who get reported. (and no I have no yard decorations)

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by fw102807

I simply believe that TV created the restriction and TV should be enforcing it. If a cop sees someone speeding is he going to wait to see if someone reports it? I think it is a ridiculous and unfair system to only target people who get reported. (and no I have no yard decorations)

This is a good way to have restrictions reported. It is FREE and the reason for these restrictions are not new or different than most places that many of us have lived before.

[NatureBoy]

This far in and no popcorn GIF?

Selective enforcement has a rich history of philosophical & political debate.

"Corruptisima republica plurimae leges." Tacitus (The more corrupt a republic, the more laws.)

“Society will develop a new kind of servitude which covers the surface of society with a network of complicated rules, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate. It does not tyrannise but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."
- Abraham Lincoln

"No man is above the law and no man is below it; nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it"
- Theodore Roosevelt

An article about HOA selective enforcement.

A bunch of great quotes about liberty, government, and the like.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Odysseus

No deed restriction for lawn ornaments in my area and that's whats so great about living in the Lady Lake part of The Villages.

That “greatness” can also be a negative.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by NatureBoy

This far in and no popcorn GIF?

Selective enforcement has a rich history of philosophical & political debate.

"Corruptisima republica plurimae leges." Tacitus (The more corrupt a republic, the more laws.)

“Society will develop a new kind of servitude which covers the surface of society with a network of complicated rules, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate. It does not tyrannise but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."
- Abraham Lincoln

"No man is above the law and no man is below it; nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it"
- Theodore Roosevelt

An article about HOA selective enforcement.

A bunch of great quotes about liberty, government, and the like.

"Living in The Villages is a privilege and a choice, not a right". Grace Gantner

[queasy27]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I like when you drive down a street here, you see miles and miles of well kept homes and lawns.

On the other hand: "And they're all made out of ticky tacky and they all look just the same."

I enjoy a bit of whimsy and personality, which is why I haven't reported any of the violations in my neighborhood. Most of us on the street know that one offender has been undergoing cancer treatment and also lost her dog recently, so the eagle mural on her garage door goes unreported. Kindness or laissez-faire, who can say.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by NatureBoy

This far in and no popcorn GIF?

Selective enforcement has a rich history of philosophical & political debate.

"Corruptisima republica plurimae leges." Tacitus (The more corrupt a republic, the more laws.)

“Society will develop a new kind of servitude which covers the surface of society with a network of complicated rules, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate. It does not tyrannise but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."
- Abraham Lincoln

"No man is above the law and no man is below it; nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it"
- Theodore Roosevelt

An article about HOA selective enforcement.

A bunch of great quotes about liberty, government, and the like.

"Give me pink flamingos...or give me death."

Originally Posted by queasy27

On the other hand: "And they're all made out of ticky tacky and they all look just the same."

I enjoy a bit of whimsy and personality, which is why I haven't reported any of the violations in my neighborhood. Most of us on the street know that one offender has been undergoing cancer treatment and also lost her dog recently, so the eagle mural on her garage door goes unreported. Kindness or laissez-faire, who can say.