[OhioBuckeye]

A while back there was complaint that someone had a White Cross in their yard & was told it would have to be in their mulch area or as some call it in the Eves. I have 2 ways of looking at this. First, it's in my yard that I paid money for, so to put ONLY 1 thing in my yard won't hurt a thing unless I really don't own the grass that I mow. Secondly, I can understand why TV don't want ornaments in the yard because some people get really carried away & have their yards full of junk. If keeping ornaments in the Eves is the rules, keep'em in there!

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by jchase

But it’s “ok” to have your back yard which is backed up to the street full of Cactus plants!

OH, I take it you must have a Cactus plant issue?

[Love2Swim]

I personally think its up to the neighbors to report the stuff they don't like. For example, one of our neighbors had 2 metal bird statues in her front yard. They went beautifully with the approximately $10,000 worth of landscaping she had done. All the neighbors raved about how nice it looked. Then one of the troll police, somebody who probably lived about 10 miles away in a different neighborhood, drove through and reported every violation they could find on our street. So, She removed her birds, the other people removed their violations, and a couple of months later, they all put the stuff back up again. If we live in the neighborhood, and everyone is in agreement about what can and shouldn't be there, I think that is enough. If you have a neighbor who overdoes it i.e. goes beyond the bounds of good taste, get neighbors together and go visit the offender and tell them in a nice way, that what they have looks like crap. As far as the logic of "the rules are the rules", for every rule, there seems to be some way around it, or some variance granted based who the person knows, or any variety of strange reasons. You have one set of rules for one neighborhood, another set in another neighborhood. And some of the rules are just plain stupid. I remember reading at one point you couldn't have a tomato plant in your yard. Really? I think that rule might have changed, thank God. I think the ultimate aim is not to get caught up in the whole concept of "the rules" but to get caught up in the concept of keeping neighborhoods looking nice. And yes, there are a lot of crappy looking things in backyards, that meet the "rules", but look a lot worse than a few tasteful lawn ornaments in the front yards. Use some common sense.

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by Love2Swim

I personally think its up to the neighbors to report the stuff they don't like. For example, one of our neighbors had 2 metal bird statues in her front yard. They went beautifully with the approximately $10,000 worth of landscaping she had done. All the neighbors raved about how nice it looked. Then one of the troll police, somebody who probably lived about 10 miles away in a different neighborhood, drove through and reported every violation they could find on our street. So, She removed her birds, the other people removed their violations, and a couple of months later, they all put the stuff back up again. If we live in the neighborhood, and everyone is in agreement about what can and shouldn't be there, I think that is enough. If you have a neighbor who overdoes it i.e. goes beyond the bounds of good taste, get neighbors together and go visit the offender and tell them in a nice way, that what they have looks like crap. As far as the logic of "the rules are the rules", for every rule, there seems to be some way around it, or some variance granted based who the person knows, or any variety of strange reasons. You have one set of rules for one neighborhood, another set in another neighborhood. And some of the rules are just plain stupid. I remember reading at one point you couldn't have a tomato plant in your yard. Really? I think that rule might have changed, thank God. I think the ultimate aim is not to get caught up in the whole concept of "the rules" but to get caught up in the concept of keeping neighborhoods looking nice. And yes, there are a lot of crappy looking things in backyards, that meet the "rules", but look a lot worse than a few tasteful lawn ornaments in the front yards. Use some common sense.

Common sense and taste are the issue. Everyone has what they think is tasteful. A tomato plant harmful, no, but how about a small garden in a yard? How many tomato plants are appropriate? We all know what we signed up for when we moved here. To those that didn't read the fine print (aka-the Deed Restrictions), too bad for them.

And how do you know someone from 10 miles away was the person who reported the issue. Stop with the hyperbole.

[CWGUY]

Originally Posted by photo1902

Common sense and taste are the issue. Everyone has what they think is tasteful. A tomato plant harmful, no, but how about a small garden in a yard? How many tomato plants are appropriate? We all know what we signed up for when we moved here. To those that didn't read the fine print (aka-the Deed Restrictions), too bad for them.

And how do you know someone from 10 miles away was the person who reported the issue. Stop with the hyperbole.

Now you need to explain what COMMON SENSE is to some people because they have no idea.

I also agree with the "too bad for them" sentiment.... but I would state it a little stronger.

[charmed59]

The tackiest thing I’ve seen in yards are those white plastic monstrosities they use to display permits during construction. Actually, I don’t mind if it’s during construction, there are so many trucks you don’t even see the sign. But T and D seems to get 98% done and then can’t get the last sign off, so the white plastic signs stay up for months while a construction truck wanders by for an hour every few weeks. There is one across the street from me on a job started last June. The construction trucks have been gone now since October.

I understand construction never finishes when expected, but can’t they at least have a less obtrusive permit holder.

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by billethkid

One man's "tacky junk" is another man's prized possession.
Do away with the anonymity....if one is going to complain, they should be required to sign the complaint!

Why?

[retiredguy123]

Those portable toilets on your street aren't very attractive either, but it's a great way to save water and toilet paper for awhile.

[CWGUY]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Those portable toilets on your street aren't very attractive either, but it's a great way to save water and toilet paper for awhile.

And you can always rent out the basement to a SNOWBIRD!

[Spoiler]

Originally Posted by CWGUY

And you can always rent out the basement to a SNOWBIRD!

Currently looking for a place for a relative..

Is this lower level still available?

PM me....

[Chellybean]

Now the Fact.
A footprint of a home is considered the full footprint of the house that includes the eve's.
Second the complaint driven enforcement is Selective enforcement and some can consider it unjust and not the law and can go as far as it being discrimination.
Third if it is anonymous the people are cowards to be exposed as unhappy trolls. The ones that do use there names to file a complaint puts the neighbors at opposition against each other and Community Standards Policy is to give out the complainant name. This way Community Standard can control the complaint trolls from attacking neighborhoods.
Usually the trolls are people that have been targeted by other trolls.
The bottom line is it is a poor system designed By the developer to put neighbors and villagers in opposition at each other and indeed is selective enforcement.
However the Community Standards holds the cards in intimidation and penalties and fines.
Don't fold so easy just because Community Standards say its wrong. Do your research and stop the Selective enforcement by Community Standards.
I do agree some things need to be enforced when neighbors get out of control with the Yard Art.
Also Community Standards Attorney Can Not make opinions in how to interpret the law or some Standards Language Only a Judge can form a opinion

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

Now the Fact.
A footprint of a home is considered the full footprint of the house that includes the eve's.
Second the complaint driven enforcement is Selective enforcement and some can consider it unjust and not the law and can go as far as it being discrimination. ???
Third if it is anonymous the people are cowards to be exposed as unhappy trolls.??? The ones that do use there names to file a complaint puts the neighbors at opposition against each other and Community Standards Policy is to give out the complainant name. Nobody gives out anyone's name.This way Community Standard can control the complaint trolls from attacking neighborhoods.???
Usually the trolls are people that have been targeted by other trolls. Usually the people who report people who are not in compliance have reason to do so. Many of us enjoy this place without a lot of schlocky ornamentation.
The bottom line is it is a poor system designed By the developer to put neighbors and villagers in opposition at each other and indeed is selective enforcement.It looks to me that it is a good way to get the job done without extra expense. A little here, a little there and someone has to pay for it.
However the Community Standards holds the cards in intimidation and penalties and fines.
Don't fold so easy just because Community Standards say its wrong. Do your research and stop the Selective enforcement by Community Standards.
I do agree some things need to be enforced when neighbors get out of control with the Yard Art.
Also Community Standards Attorney Can Not make opinions in how to interpret the law or some Standards Language Only a Judge can form a opinion

My money is on the fact that this has all been legally researched and will stand the test.

[Chellybean]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

My money is on the fact that this has all been legally researched and will stand the test.

Gracie i usually don't argue with you But to the fact that community standards doesn't give out there name is 100% wrong on your part they absolutely do if you ask!

Second as i said they hold all the cards, and like the post has said if you hire a attorney you are paying both ways, and some peoples principals will do that if they feel wronged.
Third when it comes to a jury trial you never know which way juries will vote.
So take it for it is. If you have a complaint you certainly can get the complainant name if you ask.
If you don't believe me call community standards and ask.
The Complaint has to be against you to get there name.

[Chellybean]

p.s . Usually the people who report people who are not in compliance have reason to do so. Many of us enjoy this place without a lot of schlocky ornamentation
Why is there a reason from someone coming from other neighborhoods to gather addresses to file complaints. Sounds like unhappy Villagers with a ax to grind, and don't tell me that doesn't happen, because it did to our neighborhood and usually moves through other neighborhoods nearby until the individuals feel they have done enough or gets borrowed. Last year it was the whole Villages of St. James

[roob1]

How does Community Standards know who complained, when a complaint is by email? Most email addresses don't ID the sender, and there are anonymous email services to really hide one's identity.

I don't think it is a requirement to provide one's name on a complaint. If it is, please provide the source (location) where this is stated.

Originally Posted by Chellybean

Gracie i usually don't argue with you But to the fact that community standards doesn't give out there name is 100% wrong on your part they absolutely do if you ask!

Second as i said they hold all the cards, and like the post has said if you hire a attorney you are paying both ways, and some peoples principals will do that if they feel wronged.
Third when it comes to a jury trial you never know which way juries will vote.
So take it for it is. If you have a complaint you certainly can get the complainant name if you ask.
If you don't believe me call community standards and ask.
The Complaint has to be against you to get there name.