[BogeyBoy]

Originally Posted by rkimball

Let me first state that I did not receive a ticket or summons from the local sheriffs office or any other Florida Police Force.

To answer your question:

I read in The Villages Daily Sun about the Sheriff closing Coconuts Internet Café. This closing was done after a Sumter county judge already ruled against the sheriff in a previous case against Coconuts. This to me reeks of harassment. The judge also made the sheriff return all of their computers so that they could reopen.

I also had previous problems with enforcement of the SWFWMD water restrictions. It is the responsibility of the sheriff to enforce this state statute. He has not done his required duty. Section 10. County and city officials and all law enforcement authorities are required to enforce this statute.

http://www.swfwmd.state.fl.us/files/...e_swf07-02.pdf


I went to an AAC meeting that made a representative for the Sumter County Sheriff available for questions. I asked him about two rumors I had heard about. The answers I received did not seem reasonable to me, as they had no common sense. The first question was on roads that had golf cart/ walking lane attached to automobile lanes could one golf cart pass another slower one. The sheriff’s rep said no. This did not sound logical since a cart could pass a walker. Nowhere did I find in the Florida Traffic laws did I find that a golf cart had to stay in that dedicated lane. There are so many places that in fact they have signs directing carts to merge with auto traffic.

I think it was back in 2002 that a female police officer from the Lady Lake Police Department ticketed a golf cart driver for this exact ominous violation. When Chief Nathenson reviewed this summons, he had it revoked. Since the Daily Sun has no archives, I cannot find the article back this up so you would have to take my word for it.

For some reason some one called TALK HOST thinks that I am a liar. When I tell him he could have gone to the Government Meeting last Saturday it seemed to up set him that I might be right, there is also a thing called the telephone.

So, lets get back to the Coconuts Café thing. MY WIFE WENT TO COCONUTS AND PURCHASED A PREPAID TELEPHONE CARD. THIS CARD IS GOOD FOR 30 DAYS AND HAD 600 HOURS OF TIME ON IT. I REPEAT 600 HOURS (HOURS not MINUTES). I computed this to be 600 hours time 60 minutes times .10 for a value of $3600. Not bad for 20 dollars. Not only that but the phone card was good for all of the US not just the contiguous states. I used it to call my wife when she was in Hawaii.

So why would the sheriff close them down again? So why is this guy TALK HOST all upset? Your guess is as good as mine.

Oh, the other question was: Does the Sheriff have the right to enforce traffic laws on private property? This time I did not get a reasonable answer. So, that is part of the story.

Let me get this straight - you (your wife) purchased a calling card that you state has a value of $3600 for $20. At this time I would become a little suspicious of this establishment. (But that's my opinion. I'm still looking for a Lexus dealer who will sell me a new $36,000 Lexus for $200.)

I know that legal cases can get complicated. (And thrown out. Just because a case is thrown out doesn't mean the case didn't have merit.) According to you the first case was thrown out. Perhaps something new happened that got the attention of the district attorney - maybe a complaint from someone like you who thought the calling card should be worth $4500 and felt ripped off. Maybe they allowed 110 people in the establishment and it is only licensed for occupancy of 108. Who knows? (Who cares?) Bottom line is that the sheriff or the DA felt the need to shut them down again. Of course there will be two sides to the story. Hopefully a court of law will make the right decision, maybe the same judge will get the case again and they'll be back in operation. Or maybe he'll pursue it this time. I know nothing, zip, nada, zero, about this case. And I'll bet that very few people do.

Sorry you're not getting answers to your questions to the sheriff, but you pointed out the statutes, and they can get confusing. (Especially golf carts, they are not the normal vehicle that law enforcement has to deal with and ticket, etc. Look at the bright side, if you get a ticket from a confused officer all you'll need is a sharp attorney and you'll be home free. Use some of that $3580 to pay for the attorney!)

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Xavier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0SeurAi-wc

ahhh... Now we're talkin'. I enjoyed your music X!!

[rkimball]

Originally Posted by Talk Host

You might be interested to know that this "someone called Talk Host" owns this forum and you are a guest on my forum. Please try to not be so acerbic. There is no need for it.

JLK

Then you should not infer that some one is making up stories so you can keep you Juvenile forum and attitude.

BYe,BYe

[golf2140]

Originally Posted by rkimball

Then you should not infer that some one is making up stories so you can keep you Juvenile forum and attitude.

BYe,BYe

That's the best statement you have made. Bye-Bye

[Xavier]

Originally Posted by rkimball

Then you should not infer that some one is making up stories so you can keep you Juvenile forum and attitude.

BYe,BYe

[rkimball]

Originally Posted by xavier

one down one to go.

[rkimball]

Originally Posted by Talk Host

You might be interested to know that this "someone called Talk Host" owns this forum and you are a guest on my forum. Please try to not be so acerbic. There is no need for it.

JLK

Not to be acerbic but flowery and short, told you so.

Sumter County Prosecuter drops charges against Coconuts Internet cafee.

AGENT OF KEEPER OF GAMBLING HOUSE Prosecutor: Nolle Prosequi
CONDUCTING AN ILLEGAL LOTTERY Prosecutor: Nolle Prosequi
POSSESSION OF COIN OPERATED DEVICE 1ST OFFENSE Prosecutor: Nolle Prosequi

[jebartle]

I was sure this thread would make it to page 10.....Very entertaining...giggle

[redwitch]

Well, we can always see if we can keep it going. I'm still not sure what the point of the whole thing is. Sorry, but I really don't care if a video game room is closed up, sorry. I'm also not sure about how rk figured his "savings" on the phone card, but as long he's happy, who cares? As to the golf cart path issue, it makes no sense -- so long as you're not speeding to pass another cart and there are no cars in the "car" lane, passing should be legal (at least according to my logic).

Okay, next comment -- we gotta make 10 pages for je!

[redwitch]

But you gotta really say something about the subject, not just mouth off.

Originally Posted by redwitch

But you gotta really say something about the subject, not just mouth off.

This is from the Florida Statutes:



"316.2125 Operation of golf carts within a retirement community.--

(1) Notwithstanding the provisions of s. 316.212, the reasonable operation of a golf cart, equipped and operated as provided in s. 316.212 (5), (6), and (7), within any self-contained retirement community is permitted unless prohibited under subsection (2).

(2)(a) A county or municipality may prohibit the operation of golf carts on any street or highway under its jurisdiction if the governing body of the county or municipality determines that such prohibition is necessary in the interest of safety.

(b) The Department of Transportation may prohibit the operation of golf carts on any street or highway under its jurisdiction if it determines that such prohibition is necessary in the interest of safety.

(3) A local governmental entity may enact an ordinance regarding golf cart operation and equipment which is more restrictive than those enumerated in this section. Upon enactment of any such ordinance, the local governmental entity shall post appropriate signs or otherwise inform the residents that such an ordinance exists and that it shall be enforced within the local government's jurisdictional territory. An ordinance referred to in this section must apply only to an unlicensed driver.
History.--s. 1, ch. 88-253; s. 6, ch. 96-413; s. 8, ch. 2000-313; s. 15, ch. 2006-290; s. 4, ch. 2008-98.

[punkpup]

So do you think that means that Coconuts will reopen?

Originally Posted by rkimball

Not to be acerbic but flowery and short, told you so.

Sumter County Prosecuter drops charges against Coconuts Internet cafee.

AGENT OF KEEPER OF GAMBLING HOUSE Prosecutor: Nolle Prosequi
CONDUCTING AN ILLEGAL LOTTERY Prosecutor: Nolle Prosequi
POSSESSION OF COIN OPERATED DEVICE 1ST OFFENSE Prosecutor: Nolle Prosequi

[rkimball]

It Is Open.

[golf2140]

I guess my wife can go use her phone card!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[EdV]

Actually, it re-opened well over a month ago.