[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Methinks Grumpy was being facetious re the scam part.

Yes, the entire post is facetious - it is based on a recent study, but it only included TWO people, so it is not very significant. And yet, so many took it so seriously and as an opportunity to do some more name-calling and arguing. So sad, so many people with so much in common (retired) and yet, so angry.

[Roron123]

Unfortunately we may never really know what those 600k supposedly COVID deaths real diagnosis were!! Cancer? Cardio Vascular Disease? Diabetes? Old age - dehydration etc etc All were bulked in to COVID as those deaths “paid a lot more”

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Roron123

Unfortunately we may never really know what those 600k supposedly COVID deaths real diagnosis were!! Cancer? Cardio Vascular Disease? Diabetes? Old age - dehydration etc etc All were bulked in to COVID as those deaths “paid a lot more”

Duh, they REALLY did die of CV!

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Roron123

Unfortunately we may never really know what those 600k supposedly COVID deaths real diagnosis were!! Cancer? Cardio Vascular Disease? Diabetes? Old age - dehydration etc etc All were bulked in to COVID as those deaths “paid a lot more”

So, Doctors that in hospitals are general underpaid, work long hours have enormous student debt to pay off, will intentionally misrepresent the cause of death for a little cash and risk disciplinary action and license being revoked. And it is not just a few, it would require tens of thousands of doctors all misrepresenting their diagnosis. And you do know there are very specific legal guidelines for determining cause of death in every state, and the doctors have very little say in how they determine it?

And the entire world is in on the conspiracy...

[yankygrl]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

So, Doctors that in hospitals are general underpaid, work long hours have enormous student debt to pay off, will intentionally misrepresent the cause of death for a little cash and risk disciplinary action and license being revoked. And it is not just a few, it would require tens of thousands of doctors all misrepresenting their diagnosis. And you do know there are very specific legal guidelines for determining cause of death in every state, and the doctors have very little say in how they determine it?

And the entire world is in on the conspiracy...

In the beginning if you passed away in the hospital an additional diagnosis of COVID was added. The hospital got the $$ NOT the doctor.

[taruffi57]

WHO and the CDC have admitted that many deaths were not directly CAUSED by COVID-19.

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Yes, the entire post is facetious - it is based on a recent study, but it only included TWO people, so it is not very significant. And yet, so many took it so seriously and as an opportunity to do some more name-calling and arguing. So sad, so many people with so much in common (retired) and yet, so angry.

I thought it was funny...😁

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by taruffi57

WHO and the CDC have admitted that many deaths were not directly CAUSED by COVID-19.

Wrong, wrong, wrong....

[Barborv]

Twobills, Now that's a smart women! LOL

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by taruffi57

WHO and the CDC have admitted that many deaths were not directly CAUSED by COVID-19.

Hmm, so of the millions of people who believe the numbers are fake, not any of them had a friend or relative die and have the cause of death listed as fake COVID. And those people did not sue the hospital or doctor. NOT ONE.

In four years of the previous administration, not one investigation leads to fraud charges for hospitals collecting federal funds fruadulently. Not One.

All those fake death certificates, and not a single investigation proving any fraud.

This whole thing with claiming massive fraud and never having any admissible proof or winning any court cases seems to be habit forming.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by yankygrl

In the beginning if you passed away in the hospital an additional diagnosis of COVID was added. The hospital got the $$ NOT the doctor.

Correct...

Dr. Ngozi Ezike | How COVID Deaths are Classified - YouTube

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Correct...

Dr. Ngozi Ezike | How COVID Deaths are Classified - YouTube

Two little details - one she is talking about Illinois only.

Second,

"Dr. Ngozi Ezike, the director of the Illinois Department of Public Health, says that in her department’s accounting of COVID-19 related fatalities, they have found that less than 0.6% of the deaths classified as COVID fatalities involved another primary cause of death that wasn’t related to the virus itself."

[manaboutown]

Covid-19 can result in amputations. Any record of amputation of the subject body part of this thread due to Covid-19?

[Gulfcoast]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

So, Doctors that in hospitals are general underpaid, work long hours have enormous student debt to pay off, will intentionally misrepresent the cause of death for a little cash and risk disciplinary action and license being revoked. And it is not just a few, it would require tens of thousands of doctors all misrepresenting their diagnosis. And you do know there are very specific legal guidelines for determining cause of death in every state, and the doctors have very little say in how they determine it?

And the entire world is in on the conspiracy...

No, they were following administrative procedures at the hospital. When patients were coming into the hospital they were routinely tested for Covid so that the staff could keep positive patients away from the negative patients.

If someone came in after a massive stroke and also tested positive for Covid but later died, both the stroke and Covid would be listed on the death certificate. The person actually died from the massive stroke but also happened to have Covid at the time of death so they would become a Covid statistic.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

Two little details - one she is talking about Illinois only.

Second,

"Dr. Ngozi Ezike, the director of the Illinois Department of Public Health, says that in her department’s accounting of COVID-19 related fatalities, they have found that less than 0.6% of the deaths classified as COVID fatalities involved another primary cause of death that wasn’t related to the virus itself."

It also happened in FL...

It was quite common for Hospice patients...

And before widespread testing was available, anyone with "flu-like symptoms" was assumed to have Covid...

Did you ever wonder why the cases of "flu" were almost non-existent this past flu season?

AFA as the "accounting" goes, it's "we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong"...

My like the crap Cuomo tried to pull...