[gfmucci]

Originally Posted by Frangyomory

Mark Morse is just as phony as you can be.
Mark Morse happens to be a charismatic speaker and the ... folks are just like sheep following the dog.

Wow, the same can be said about Barack Obama! Amazing. The difference is that the Morse family is being productive and making a lot of people happy. And his words match his actions.

[aln]

I'll add my "atta boy" to the Morses' et al
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Until there's more people moving OUT than moving IN, somebody's doing something right.
I don't think it's the POA or the people filing lawsuits because they were stupid enough to put their 'person' in harms way (buffalo) - go out on a golf course during a thunderstorm and raise your club in the air with metal spikes. Who ya gonna sue now!

Is Mark Morse a good speaker ?
Yes, probably better than George W Bush or Bill Clinton.

We still live in the best country in the world and a very VERY good community.

wav

[beady]

Someone made a comment about the Morse family worshiping the golden idol ...money.
I think they are a very clever family who formed a company to develop this area and made a grand success of it. They have earned every dollar they have made.
How can I respect an association that sued a company and then some of the members reaped extra financial benefits. We all won in that the money was set aside for the continuing up keep of our property. If the POA decided to initiate the suit then they took the risk as a group.The members in the group that handled the suit with the lawyers should not recieve compensation. Any money awarded should have been added to the final settlement to benefit the entire association The lawyers earned their money on both sides of this issue.

[jadebox]

Robkin stay!!!! We think alike. If others dislike how things are done here then why not leave. No one is making anyone stay BUT please do not come here and try to change things. I am living in LALA land, drinking the Kool aide and loving every minute of it. Well, I will if I can still see the buffalo. No need to feed--just see.

[rjrex]

Originally Posted by Frangyomory

jkp and bimmerti you have seen the true reason we got those amenities back. I still find it hard to understand how anyone can applaud Mark Morse, et al when we as residents have to threaten a law suit or actually file one, to get the developer/family to "do the right thing" and he has the audacity to complain about the bad publicity and the POA downtalking the family!!!!

Is it true that the beneficiaries of the lawsuit (other than lawyers) are current or former officers of the POA.... Wonder about that...Who do they serve.

[jadebox]

YES!!!

[Bucco]

ROKINRONDA......I can relate to your feelings. I said basicallythe same thing a month or so ago and am very hesitant to post anything positive on here about TV or to defend the family or developer. The response I got was something like...we know that folks monitor this board that are close to the developer...which is just plain crazy.

Listen, NOTHING is perfect but I cannot understand those who spend so much time listening to RUMORS, and almost all of the complaints are simple rumors OUT OF CONTEXT.

TV does a great job in an exploding community and I see nothing wrong with giving kdos when deserved. I certainly am not opposed to expressing concerns, but there are avenues to address them within TV. Seems if you dont hear what you want to hear the developer is at fault.

This is from a prior post of mine concerning complaints about rolling the recycling charge of $1.47 into the trash charge and hiding it on purpose so the residents wouldn't notice and the Morse family was getting richer. GIVE ME A BREAK!

"I am so tired about hearing people bemoan the Morse family and how they are trying to pilfer every penny they can from the poor souls that bought homes here. It makes me feel bad about being a homeowner in TV. I don't want to feel bad about being a homeowner in TV I want to feel good and be happy and proud about it. We made the choice to move to TV and we will give every benefit of the doubt to TV unless things are proved to be otherwise. TV is paradise now and will be until the day I die. If you can't be a loyal homeowner, what's the sense of living here in the first place. I like the positives of TV".

I felt that way then and do now concerning this latest complaint. Think this way, Thank you God for letting me have another day on earth. Thank you God for letting me have another day on earth and in paradise. How can you go wrong with that kind of attitude.

Wake up and smell the coffee and flowers folks.

[jjdees]

Good post Johnny. The word profit has now morphed to greed. I guess the only reason for a business' existence is to do others a favor. I hope the family keeps up the good work. They've created something fantastic and not duplicated anywhere else.

[Frangyomory]

You folks just keep looking at the world through those rose colored glasses and don't worry about the $40million dollars of amentiy fees paid by residents and moved inappropriately by the developer...which was proven in court. I'll keep my eyes open and continue to read about BOTH sides of issues.

As for moving, no one ever said this wasn't a wonderful place to live and like no other. Simply said, the Morse family does not believe in full disclosure and neve will. The residents who give a rats behind will continue to threaten and/or file law suits to ensure the truth is known.

No, the developer/family didn't cause the sink holes but they did know from the examination of the land that they would likely occur then they tried to make the residents pay the cost that they KNEW was going to be incurred.

I won't bother telling you all the truth anymore. Evidently most of you are happy to sit in the sunshine with the rose colored glasses on while you smile all the way to the next happy hour.

Ya know Frangyomory, what is wrong with that. At our age, or at least mine, I DON'T CARE WHO IS ZOOMING WHO. I DON'T CARE WHO GOT 40 MILLION. I just want to enjoy what few remaining years I have in total happiness. Why are you such an angry person. Live and let live. My amenity fees in NJ are $154.00 a month and we have nothing close to TV as far as living is concerned. At $130.00 a month I am well ahead of the game.

[nONIE]

I think you have us figured out Fran, and your point is????

[jadebox]

I love my rose colored glasses and happy hour!!! Everything here is not perfect but not bad enough to be so angry about it.

[Villages Kahuna]

As noted by Mark Morse in his speech to the VHA last week, 97% of the survey respondents rated The Villages as a great place to live! It was about the seventh year in a row that the results were 96-97% and about the 15th year in a row where satisfaction was well above 90% of those responding. Geez, something must be going right.

I'd guess that if the statisticians did their thing, that the "margin of error" would be awfully low. Why? Because 33% of all Villages homeowners participated in the survey. That's a huge response, almost unheard of by those taking such surveys.

So a few people can express their disatisfaction and distrust for the developer of this place. They have every right to be as grouchy and suspicious as they choose. But they are a tiny percentage of the people who live here. The huge majority of the people who live here couldn't be happier with Florida's Friendliest Hometown. Personally, I've placed our house on the "do not throw" list for delivery of the POA newspaper. I've got a lot better things to do with my time than waste it reading poorly written, unsubstantiated and heavily-slanted articles written by people unwilling to take responsibility for their writing by placing their byline on the articles.

By the way, does anyone really believe that the developer knew that sinkholes would occur and where...and then went ahead and built structures on that land? As noted in Mark Morse's speech, about 45% of The Villages is undeveloped--that is golf courses, nature preserves, wetlands, parks and open space. I guess I might ask whether it's a common sense suspicion that the developer knew where the sinkholes would occur and then went ahead and built something there anyway? That sure doesn't meet the "common sense" test as far as I'm concerned.

[barb1191]

Originally Posted by Frangyomory

Mark Morse is just as phony as you can be. It took a class action suit for hiim to pony up on the millions of dollars of OUR amenities and to give them back to US! You can like him and give hiim all the atta boys you want but when it takes a law suit to get money back that is ours; it takes a law suit to fix sink holes; it almost takes a law suit to fix the vinyl siding in many homes, I am not going to give any atta boys!!!!

Mark Morse happens to be a charismatic speaker and the VHA folks are just like sheep following the dog. I happen to be a member of the VHA but am going to join the POA because FULL DISCLOSURE is an entitlement and not something we should have to sue to get.

The lawyers got what is routinely paid to lawyers in law suits, they got a specific percentage of the value of the suit. This DOES NOT make the POA greedy, etc. They simply saw a wrong and went about making it right in the only way they could because the developer would NOT give the money back that belong to the owners.

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You got my vote, Fran. You are a true realist in that you realize the shortcomings of the Developer and yet profess to love living in TV. You support the POA (as do I) for their efforts to keep the scales balanced. I agree with you wholeheartedly and support your opnions. I certainly do not see you as a negative person because you can understand the problems and yet support the group willing to be the "whiners."

You get negative reactions in these forums to your beliefs and you hang in there and stand up for your convictions. You GO girl!!!! Don't let the barbs thrown by some get to you. You have never been disrespectful to any of the Members here on TOTV but certainly have done your homework and see both sides of the coin when it comes to this "paradise."

The "newbies" and "wannabes" can wear their rose-colored glasses during their early days here in TV and after a few years they may take an interest in the realities, as we have and see both sides. It's not a battle; it's merely living to standards one chooses.

barb1191