Boy, I have been following this thread and have even been drawn in a couple of times to voice my opinion (everyone has one, like it or not) but we are now getting rude and obnoxious. I think we should bring down the tenor of the posts on this thread and make our point of view without sounding all the bells and whistles. We are grownups are we not. Geeez ???

[Betty Mary]

Agree with the Bravos!
Just wish I knew what Fran thought she was supposed to get that she has not received?
What has she not gotten for her Amenity Fee? Can't she go to a Rec Center for over a thousand activities? Can't she play golf? Etc., Etc.....
Besides, the Developer, as I understand it, does not provide these services... the Districts do. So what aren't they providing to her? I think she is confused. Or maybe I am - I did not know the Developer was responsible for people being happy....just providing a community where they can be! It is up to each person to choose for themselves.
It is so good to hear so many of us have made a great choice !
Have a BEAUTIFUL DAY IN THE VILLAGES!
PS...do so many people not realize that settling law suits are most often business decisions and are not indicative of guilt or innocence?

[chelsea24]

Very nice post Betty Mary! :bigthumbsup:

[chelsea24]

1rnfl Muncle! I love that "a half vast job". You nut! :bigthumbsup:

[Cajungirl]

Can someone tell me what "drinking cool aid means"...all Cajuns drink is beer. Having grown up a little Cajun girl who went to school with no shoes on until 8th grade, who only spoke French until first grade, and grew up in a home where 9 kids slept in the same bedroom in three double beds among us, I, too, feel as though I'm in a GREAT PLACE and I, too, thank God every day for my good health, my husband's good health, and my small, beautiful home with WONDERFUL neighbors. While I was teaching school, I was always the advocate fighting for some cause or another. I felt nothing was ever done right!! I was always fighting for a cause for everyone. I have learned a long time ago to lighten up. Too little time left with too much to enjoy! That's my opinion and it ought to be yours.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by redwitch

If you're going to quote me, I'd suggest you try to not twist my words. Believe it or not, I'm not a socialist. I firmly believe business is a good thing and anything else is a disaster waiting to happen. Like anything else, business has its good side and its bad side. Anyone who only sees one side of a coin misses a lot.

Quite simply, business is business. There is an inherent greed factor, it is neither good nor evil. It just is. I don't think I said business was bad. I simply said the average person doesn't like it (unless, of course, it is their business). I've consistently said that the Morse family deserves their money -- they've worked hard for it and I, personally, don't begrudge them one red cent. I don't like all of their policies but, then, that goes back to the greed factor and is a given.

And, Muncle, maybe Chels is right more often than you think.

I absolutely agree. I hate when GF zeroes in on one point and doesn't reread it all. He is sharp as a tack,and a very good writer, but like many of us, we get all excited about the topics and start typing.

Don't get excited GF. I just love Redwitch and she is my friend and I won't soon forget all of her early kindnesses to me when I posted a topic called "What do you know about the developers, I haven't heard much good".

And before everyone jumps on me, this was pure ignorance on my part, fueled by half truths from my friends who did not want us to move to TV. I have since been enlightened and we bought a house last month.

and MUNCLE, CHELSEA is usually right. (You must be talking about politics, I only went to that forum once, I realized I couldn't handle it)

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by Cajungirl

Can someone tell me what "drinking cool aid means"...

Good morning Cajungirl,

The expression "drinking the Kool-aid" refers to the Jonestown Massacre of 1978 in Guyana. It was a mass suicide of more than 900 members of Jonestown, a whacked out cult. (I think "whacked out cult" may be a bit redundant.)

Anyway, Jim Jones was a seriously major American whackjob. Jones was born in a lovely Indiana town. Those who knew him deemed him strange from day-one almost. When he grew up, his obsessions and need for control drove him to become a cult leader. And away they all went to Guyana. I think the cult was called The People's Temple. But it is usually referred to as Jonestown.

Anyway, the cultists gave up all original thought, as cultists are wont to do. Finally Jones led the cultists to the ultimate expression of whackjobness when they committed mass suicide under his direction. Jones told them to drink Kool-Aid with cyanide in it. (I have heard the Kool-Aid was grape. I have also heard it was the red stuff. Don't know.)

It was an absolute horror. Not to mention the effect on that beloved smiling Kool-Aid pitcher that we have all known since childhood.

So anyway, that's the tragic tale of the reference point for the allusion "drinking the Kool-Aid."

The use of the expression in our language now means to completely embrace an idea or philosophy, refusing to see anything even remotely negative.

There has been somewhat of an evolution of the expression "drinking the Kool-Aid" in that it has been watered down quite a bit. Now when people say it about themselves, it can sometimes mean something closer to "Don't worry. Be happy." Or in some cases maybe it means, "Pick Your Poison." Answers will vary.

So that is Boomer's storytime for today.

Boomer

[BUC]

I really enjoy Frannie's post ,but she always seems to be negative, I'm glad I don't have to live that way. She seems to be very unhappy with her live. I do feel sorry for her. I'm happier than I deserve to be, and I'm still 2 /3 years from moving to the TV, Just think how happy I'll be then!

[chuckinca]

Boomer:

Drinking TV Kool-Aid has nothing to do with Jonestown!

There is a standing joke in TV that the people are so happy because they drink Kool-Aid (or water or whatever) spiked by the developer. It is also referred to as the Stepford Grannies effect (a reference to the Stepford Wives movie where all the wives were happy as can be but had their brains adjusted by the even Happier Hubbies).

[chelsea24]

Buc, just a small point off topic :cop: No one is happier than they deserve to be. We all deserve to be happy! So, IMHO, smile peeps! We, who are sublimely happy in TV (or anywhere for that matter) deserve it! ;D

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by chuckinca

Boomer:

Drinking TV Kool-Aid has nothing to do with Jonestown!

There is a standing joke in TV that the people are so happy because they drink Kool-Aid spiked by the developer. It is also referred to as the Stepford Grannies effect (a reference to the Stepford Wives movie where all the wives were happy as can be but had their brains adjusted by the even Happier Hubbies)

Hey Chuck,

I was just telling my little story to explain the root of the allusion. The very last part of my storytime post pretty well summed up what the expression means to people who live in TV. It is mostly the "Don't worry. Be Happy" thing so it seems. But there are some who see it from the different perspective of "Pick Your Poison." Those are the ones who may see some issues, but they know nothing is perfect and they like living in TV.

And both those perspectives are fine with me. Along with any other perspective anyone wants to present.

I have heard a lot of people say, "Drinking the water" which does not carry the connotation of the Kool-Aid. (And they do have those bottles of water in the squares and they are clearly labeled "The Villages" so that looks like full disclosure to me.)

And I think what you are saying may be more along the lines of "landing face down in the punchbowl" which takes it a step beyond just drinking the water and carries a rather frolicsome connotation. So that could be a good thing.

But as far as my little story goes, it had to do with how the expression entered our language. Here's a link:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...k+the+kool-aid

(Oh and Chuck, I know you know about Jonestown/Kool-Aid and that you did not need the link to explain it. I just put it in here anyway.)

BUT WAIT! YOU'RE CHUCK. You are the one who answered my questions in the thread about the historic side. That was when I was trying to find the swimming pool where they play "Name That Tune." That was you. Do you think they might have any discussions there of word connotations and allusions? That would be so great. My kind of place.

So anyway, Chuck. Thanks for your take on all of this. I know what you mean.

Oh, and I do tend to do my little storytimes around here. I have one on the back burner about Johnny Marzetti for another thread one of these days.

But for now, I must be off.

Boomer

[redwitch]

I lost a couple of friends in Jonestown. Most of those who lived in the Bay Area at the very least knew someone who was a member of the Temple and who died in Guyana. That being said, I'm with you Boomer -- the phrase did in fact start with the drinking of the poisoned Kool-Aid in Jonestown. It has taken on a much bigger meaning, as you well explained. As you stated, the meaning today has come down to "completely embracing an idea or philosophy, refusing to see anything even remotely negative." However, the history of why we say we drank the Kool-Aid is spot on.

[graciegirl]

Oh, and I do tend to do my little storytimes around here. I have one on the back burner about Johnny Marzetti for another thread one of these days.

But for now, I must be off.

Boomer



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If I could just get the danged quotes thing to work.

Boom. You are not off.

Chuck, she is right about the Kool-Aid and Jonestown.

Boomer, Cincinnati Breath,....I wanna hear the story about Johnny Marzetti!!!

Please Please!!!

Your dear friend who just made a bajillion pounds of Johnny Marzetti for my granddaughters graduation party.

GracieGirl

[Floridagal]

No matter where you live, you can't make everyone happy. There will always be +'s and -'s.

I love living here and take the good with the bad. Most of it is good. I always tell people who complain all the time about TV, move. No one is tied here.

[Frangyomory]

Muncie you aare far too nasty and seem to enjoy taking personal shots at me.
I never said I didn't love the Villages. I love it here. I simply said that when we bought the sales reps did not disclose everything we should have known BEFORE we closed.

I cannot believe the personal shots that have continued at me just because I don't trust the developer. I have been told I have a choice, in other words I can move; I have been told to move; I have been called to task because it was presumed that I thought that network television and the NY Tiimes should be covering the Villages.

Well, all you have done is convinced me that you have the minds of 5th graders when sticks and stone could hurt our bones but words will never hurt me. You are childish and you can't take it when someone disagrees with you.

Shame on you, any of you who have joined in on the personal attacks at me because I don't love the Morse family. Shame on you all. :edit: