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Old 11-06-2013, 09:25 AM
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I'd be inclined to believe that your numbers are reversed...5% are like us, the other 95%...not so much. It's why we have walls and gates...
I assume this is said with tongue in cheek, right??
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:32 AM
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...I reluctantly continued to the seating area and sat down and told a woman next to me about it. She said another woman had called the police about this gigantic snake, but apparently they told her they couldn't do anything about it...
I believe what 'Carl in Tampa' posted earlier, that if the police had received such an actual complaint they would of at the very least checked out the source. The OP relied on hearsay from someone else at the square and left it at that. If he himself had also called the police and if there was an earlier call, with two complaints I would believe the police would be even more inclined to checkout the disturbance. I don't believe that anyone ever made an original call to the police and now we have a thread which has created a firestorm of responses.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:32 AM
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I'd be inclined to believe that your numbers are reversed...5% are like us, the other 95%...not so much. It's why we have walls and gates...
I'm sure we don't have walls and gates because of the people that live in Wildwood !
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:37 AM
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I seems that the incidents of humans attacked by constrictor snakes cited on this thread mostly involved children who were either asleep or alone by snakes who were unattended or other wise unsupervised. I don't see how they are comparable in any way to the situation at Brownwood town square. In addition, if that snake were going to attack someone why wouldn't it be the owner who it was already wrapped around, instead of some one in the crowd passing by?
But, I guess phobias are by definition irrational. It is what it is.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:53 AM
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Fear of snakes is hard-wired, not a phobia, not irrational.
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:05 AM
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It seems logical to me that if you can bring a large boa constrictor to the squares you should also be able to bring other wild animals such as foxes, wolves, lions, tigers, and bears. As long as they don't hurt anyone what's the big deal.
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:15 AM
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It seems logical to me that if you can bring a large boa constrictor to the squares you should also be able to bring other wild animals such as foxes, wolves, lions, tigers, and bears. As long as they don't hurt anyone what's the big deal.
There are usually very strict laws about animals that can never really be tamed like lions, tigers and bears, oh my. Foxes and wolves also seem to fall in that category. I wonder if anyone would take any interest if someone brought a cow to Brownwood? Horses and cows would seem the most appropriate given its cowboy theme.
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I believe what 'Carl in Tampa' posted earlier, that if the police had received such an actual complaint they would of at the very least checked out the source. The OP relied on hearsay from someone else at the square and left it at that. If he himself had also called the police and if there was an earlier call, with two complaints I would believe the police would be even more inclined to checkout the disturbance. I don't believe that anyone ever made an original call to the police and now we have a thread which has created a firestorm of responses.
I think that you are one smart guy, and I have always thought so.

Kitty's link above about humans being "hard wired' to be afraid of snakes didn't work.

Try this.
http://www.livescience.com/2348-fear-snakes.html
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:42 AM
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I seems that the incidents of humans attacked by constrictor snakes cited on this thread mostly involved children who were either asleep or alone by snakes who were unattended or other wise unsupervised. I don't see how they are comparable in any way to the situation at Brownwood town square. In addition, if that snake were going to attack someone why wouldn't it be the owner who it was already wrapped around, instead of some one in the crowd passing by?
But, I guess phobias are by definition irrational. It is what it is.
To me it's "irrational" to ignore the facts presented by U.S. Humane Society shown in the screen snapshot below, and all the other facts presented in that web page, and by other animal rights groups earlier in the thread.

Refusal to acknowledge the fact that the many harmless pet dogs present at the squares could easily get involved with and attacked/choked by a python that gets away from its owner standing on the square across from Five Guys Restaurant there is purposeful irrationality!

Refusal to acknowledge the statements in the humane society report "All of the giant constrictors have demonstrated an appetite for dogs" and "Experienced reptile handlers and dogs alike have been attacked by constrictor snakes" is willfully irrational.

And about this minimizing claim, "if that snake were going to attack someone why wouldn't it be the owner who it was already wrapped around, instead of some one in the crowd passing by?", it's also willfully irrational to ignore the fact that I stated in the first post that "Suddenly as I got closer, I saw half the body and head of a gigantic python lunge outward from the guy's shoulders, and in my direction", and that being then draped over only one shoulder at that point, it could have easily lunged to the ground and struck and attacked me or others there.

Of all the other comments that are refusals to consider facts about the dangers and inappropriateness of allowing these wild animals in the square that don't even belong in Florida swamps, there is the fact that the newly opened Five Guys Restaurant, and the other businesses there, surely do not need or want this kind of freak show on the sidewalk there, terrorizing innocent patrons coming there to dine and relax.

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Old 11-06-2013, 10:51 AM
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I'd be inclined to believe that your numbers are reversed...5% are like us, the other 95%...not so much. It's why we have walls and gates...
I am inclined to believe that the vast majority of people everywhere are just like everyone else. The bad apples in Florida don't all live in Wildwood, or in The Villages.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:10 PM
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And if this"harmless"creature gets loose in the square area won't that be great for business
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:26 PM
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I believe what 'Carl in Tampa' posted earlier, that if the police had received such an actual complaint they would of at the very least checked out the source. The OP relied on hearsay from someone else at the square and left it at that. If he himself had also called the police and if there was an earlier call, with two complaints I would believe the police would be even more inclined to checkout the disturbance. I don't believe that anyone ever made an original call to the police and now we have a thread which has created a firestorm of responses.
if we could just have your number to call so we know what to do??
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I believe what 'Carl in Tampa' posted earlier, that if the police had received such an actual complaint they would of at the very least checked out the source. The OP relied on hearsay from someone else at the square and left it at that. If he himself had also called the police and if there was an earlier call, with two complaints I would believe the police would be even more inclined to checkout the disturbance. I don't believe that anyone ever made an original call to the police and now we have a thread which has created a firestorm of responses.
You can believe what you want, by hearsay from Carl, but you were not there to see the menace, and you were not there to hear the whole conversations I had with several people there about this.

To get back to the point, the focus of the complaint and thread is not to slam the police. It is that giant constrictor snakes which do not even belong in Florida swamps, much less a public social gathering and dancing/entertainment/dining place, do not belong at the square nor in front of Five Guys nor any other place on the square there.

If a giant python/constrictor got away from its owner, it could easily attack one of the many people or dozens of dogs there, and no dog is going to win a fight with a 10-foot, 5-6 inch diameter python that is choking it to death in front of all the people there in the square.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:46 PM
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I wish we could work together here to decide what tado if this happens again...maybe John is saying it was indeed a menace and should have been reported to the police?? if other posts made it confusing, truth is YOU livefree, saw the snake?
So, if we were to get on the same page, if this happens again, someone should 911. does everybody agree?
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:54 PM
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I wish we could work together here to decide what tado if this happens again...maybe John is saying it was indeed a menace and should have been reported to the police?? if other posts made it confusing, truth is YOU livefree, saw the snake?
So, if we were to get on the same page, if this happens again, someone should 911. does everybody agree?
I would say no. 911 is for emergencies. I would hate to someone in need of help while they are answering a call about a pet snake.
Stick with calling the police. I doubt though that they will do anything. Maybe they could just reason with the person not to have they snake near all the people.
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