[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by AMB444

We pay for pickle ball, rec center and pools, etc.


But TV is not checking all that often to make sure they are residents.

What should be done to make sure the $$ we pay each month doesn't pay for these people coming in to free load.

If people are found using amenities without paying for them, they should be prosecuted for theft of services. It is just like shoplifting or running out of a restaurant without paying. What happens if you sneak onto a championship course without paying? Do they just ask you to leave?

I think a few highly publicized prosecutions would be a deterrent to other people.

[Arlington2]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

PLUS, the passes I get for my guests do not have chips in them so how would they work with the turnstiles? Put a barcode on the passes and a reader at the turnstiles? Pay for chipped guest cards and the infrastructure to constantly modify the database?

That is likely the excuse TV uses to avoid taking action. The infrastructure change needed would take extra bucks (like renovating golf courses), but in the long run reduced personnel needs would reduce cost. I suggest interviewing communities that successfully use the approach to see how they control interlopers rather then continue to take the stick your head in the sand approach to ignore. The longer TV waits the more difficult is will be to make change. Maybe already too late?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by AMB444

We pay for pickle ball, rec center and pools, etc.


But TV is not checking all that often to make sure they are residents.

What should be done to make sure the $$ we pay each month doesn't pay for these people coming in to free load.

I have often wondered just how big a problem is that supposedly needs fixing?

[Djean1981]

The fear of outsiders has become a social contagion egged on by the villages-negative-news site as rage bait. It's simply not true. The villages is too big to expect to recognize everyone at your local pool or pickleball court. The apartment building's going up have their own facilities. Try to relax.

[PugMom]

every time i go to the pool, my id is checked, so i know there's an effort to keep non-Villagers out.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

Are you willing to pay more in amenity fees to pay people to drive around and check IDs?

We are already paying for this service. The rec center employees are required to check IDs at the rec center, and to visit the pools to check IDs. The problem is lax enforcement. When someone says they forgot their ID, they should be refused admittance, but they are not. If they were, they wouldn't forget the next time.

[Djean1981]

Exactly 😂 💯

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by AMB444

We pay for pickle ball, rec center and pools, etc.


But TV is not checking all that often to make sure they are residents.

What should be done to make sure the $$ we pay each month doesn't pay for these people coming in to free load.

Email Rohan he’s in charge of villages recreation. Bring it up at your next district meeting. That’s about all you can do.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by PugMom

every time i go to the pool, my id is checked, so i know there's an effort to keep non-Villagers out.

IMO and what I observed Depends on rec center. Some do good job, some are rarely seen checking ID’s. Neighborhood pools usually have no rec center close and no one assigned at pools, so rec center has to send someone out to check id which is not going to be high on priority lists IMO.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

I have often wondered just how big a problem is that supposedly needs fixing?

If you don’t do the activity it not problem for you. I can wonder also but I have no clue other than the areas I go to which is minor problem that I have observed, but I have no clue down south where center are really busy at times?

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

IMO and what I observed Depends on rec center. Some do good job, some are rarely seen checking ID’s. Neighborhood pools usually have no rec center close and no one assigned at pools, so rec center has to send someone out to check id which is not going to be high on priority lists IMO.

The way it works is that the rec center employee is assigned 2 or 3 pools to visit and to check IDs. All pools are covered by this system, but no pools have fulltime employees to check IDs.

[MarshBendLover]

Probably 99% of people from outside TV drive a car to the rec centers, because a cart would be too far to drive to make it worth it. So, since rec centers are privately owned property along with the street entrance, then install entrance gate only. No auto-open red button crap. Just a call button to the person at the desk if you are in need of entrance. If a car comes around through the exit, then it is obvious they need further checking and warning. The cost would be less than $1,000 per rec center.

We drive our car to all rec centers. I would be fine and feel more like a special place if I had to swipe a card even to check my mail. The fact that we have to go inside because we arrived in a car and tell the desk that we are going to play bocco and get our IDs scanned is a waste of time. I get golf carts are assumed residents. A card reader at rec center entrance would be perfect, just like up at FR rec center. Just need to get rid of red auto button. Police and fire can have cards installed on cars or all employees given a card. Afterall, off duty first responders are always welcome.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

If you don’t do the activity it not problem for you. I can wonder also but I have no clue other than the areas I go to which is minor problem that I have observed, but I have no clue down south where center are really busy at times?

I will say any regional pool is highly regulated. Not only by the Id woohoo checker. But the regular residents who can literally come unglued, when a new person shows up.
Not only can they be outright rude, asking where do you live, why are you at this pool. Especially lap swim, and water sports, one actually feels sorry for the newcomers and the ridicule they sometimes encounter.

It’s one of the reasons we built a 4th house with our own pool.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Originally Posted by asianthree

I will say any regional pool is highly regulated. Not only by the Id woohoo checker. But the regular residents who can literally come unglued, when a new person shows up.
Not only can they be outright rude, asking where do you live, why are you at this pool. Especially lap swim, and water sports, one actually feels sorry for the newcomers and the ridicule they sometimes encounter.

It’s one of the reasons we built a 4th house with our own pool.

There's a truism I once saw on a manager's desk plaque: "Good security is not convenient."

[LuvtheVillages]

Originally Posted by MarshBendLover

Probably 99% of people from outside TV drive a car to the rec centers, because a cart would be too far to drive to make it worth it. So, since rec centers are privately owned property along with the street entrance, then install entrance gate only. No auto-open red button crap. Just a call button to the person at the desk if you are in need of entrance. If a car comes around through the exit, then it is obvious they need further checking and warning. The cost would be less than $1,000 per rec center.

We drive our car to all rec centers. I would be fine and feel more like a special place if I had to swipe a card even to check my mail. The fact that we have to go inside because we arrived in a car and tell the desk that we are going to play bocco and get our IDs scanned is a waste of time. I get golf carts are assumed residents. A card reader at rec center entrance would be perfect, just like up at FR rec center. Just need to get rid of red auto button. Police and fire can have cards installed on cars or all employees given a card. Afterall, off duty first responders are always welcome.

There are a lot of neighbors, contractors, etc, who have somehow acquired gate passes but are not residents. And gate passes can be cloned. Gate passes are not a substitute for resident ID cards.