[ajbrown]

Originally Posted by USCGretired

Last week in my car with my speed control set to 30, I had a guy tail gate me going south on Morse and just north of Rio Grande he went across the double yellow line, passed me, slammed on his brakes while pulling in front of me then started screaming at me for going to slow. Going 30 caused him to go into total road rage, then he speeds off and was easily going 40.

I live in the area so I am impacted by this poorly planned roadway everyday. I would like to see 25 max speed limit, carts and cars share the road so at times traffic will only flow at 20, give the cart path to walkers and bicycles. Double speeding fines like in a construction zone.

The issue is not so much the speed limit IMO. This person would have done the same to you if the limit was 25, I suspect no matter the limit.

It is hard to enforce aggressive drivers for law enforcement I suspect. They cannot be everywhere at once. If the story is accurate, this person should have been in big trouble... but how do we (the law) catch them?

[bargee]

Maybe someone can tell me why every gate in the villages except the North Gate on Morse Blvd closes between every car.This gate remains open an excessive amount of time allowing car after car to pass thru most at a higher than normal speed.You literally take your life in your hands trying to pass thru this intersection on the cart path as your sight line is blocked by the gate house.By closing the gate between each car you would give carts a chance to safely cross and would make Morse Blvd a less inticing"cut thru" to 441

[villagetinker]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I use my cruise control any time I go over 25 mph. It in no way inhibits my ability to slow down or stop. If I need to stop, slow down or swerve, I simply step on the brake. Nothing dangerous about it.

I do the same, with the cruise control set at 30 mph (or the appropriate posted speed), I have my foot positioned over the BRAKE pedal, and my reaction time is that much faster. I also would do this in FOG and very heavy rain conditions for the same reasons. I did however refrain from using it in icy or slick conditions, as it would be possible for the speed control to increase speed at a very in appropriate time (like a curve).

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by bargee

Maybe someone can tell me why every gate in the villages except the North Gate on Morse Blvd closes between every car.This gate remains open an excessive amount of time allowing car after car to pass thru most at a higher than normal speed.You literally take your life in your hands trying to pass thru this intersection on the cart path as your sight line is blocked by the gate house.By closing the gate between each car you would give carts a chance to safely cross and would make Morse Blvd a less inticing"cut thru" to 441

I have observed the same situation there when the gate arms remain straight up. Not only does the cars pass thru fairly quickly but cars coming from El camino start backing up. If you're in the cart you just have wait your turn. The ultimate solution would be to make Morse Blvd a very less desirable path to only use as a fast track between 27/441 and 466.

[villagetinker]

Originally Posted by bargee

Maybe someone can tell me why every gate in the villages except the North Gate on Morse Blvd closes between every car.This gate remains open an excessive amount of time allowing car after car to pass thru most at a higher than normal speed.You literally take your life in your hands trying to pass thru this intersection on the cart path as your sight line is blocked by the gate house.By closing the gate between each car you would give carts a chance to safely cross and would make Morse Blvd a less inticing"cut thru" to 441

Has anyone called Village Community Watch 352-753-0550 or Public Safety 352 -205-8280 to report this situation?

[BobnBev]

Originally Posted by ajbrown

The issue is not so much the speed limit IMO. This person would have done the same to you if the limit was 25, I suspect no matter the limit.

It is hard to enforce aggressive drivers for law enforcement I suspect. They cannot be everywhere at once. If the story is accurate, this person should have been in big trouble... but how do we (the law) catch them?

A variety of unmarked cars, for starters, and VERY large fines as a deterrent.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by bargee

Maybe someone can tell me why every gate in the villages except the North Gate on Morse Blvd closes between every car.This gate remains open an excessive amount of time allowing car after car to pass thru most at a higher than normal speed.You literally take your life in your hands trying to pass thru this intersection on the cart path as your sight line is blocked by the gate house.By closing the gate between each car you would give carts a chance to safely cross and would make Morse Blvd a less inticing"cut thru" to 441

All the gates will allow multiple cars to pass through. If you are behind a car whose driver has pushed the button and you just keep going, the gate will stay up. Or, of it has begun to come down, a sensor will make it stop and raise back up.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by ajbrown

The issue is not so much the speed limit IMO. This person would have done the same to you if the limit was 25, I suspect no matter the limit.

It is hard to enforce aggressive drivers for law enforcement I suspect. They cannot be everywhere at once. If the story is accurate, this person should have been in big trouble... but how do we (the law) catch them?

I agree. Speed limits are only for people who obey them. Some people drive as fast as they can go no matter what the speed limit.

By the way, lowering the speed limit on Morse to 25 would be absurd. It's one of two main north south thoroughfares in The Villages. 30 mph is low enough in fact, I've always thought that 35 would be more reasonable.

Most golf cart vs car accidents have had nothing to do with speed.

[Sandtrap328]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

I agree. Speed limits are only for people who obey them. Some people drive as fast as they can go no matter what the speed limit.

By the way, lowering the speed limit on Morse to 25 would be absurd. It's one of two main north south thoroughfares in The Villages. 30 mph is low enough in fact, I've always thought that 35 would be more reasonable.

Most golf cart vs car accidents have had nothing to do with speed.

Agree completely with you. Buena Vista is 35 mph. Morse should be 35. I was on Morse yesterday and drivers seemed to be sticking to the 30 and golf carts did not do anything out of the ordinary. Turning onto Rio Grande was smooth and the carts on Rio Grande had no problem staying in the cart lane.

No changes needed but the 35 mph would make complete sense.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

All the gates will allow multiple cars to pass through. If you are behind a car whose driver has pushed the button and you just keep going, the gate will stay up. Or, of it has begun to come down, a sensor will make it stop and raise back up.

Piggy-backing is a dangerous practice.

[rubicon]

Keeping the exit gate open on Morse and other gates in prime season makes sense.

Speeding is a problem on this Morse, Rio grande and DelMar but more disturbing is a driver intentionally going well below the speed limit. Sometimes it is done intentionally because these drivers feel compelled to attempt to control all drivers on their road.

I had a woman do that once to me when driving my cart on Davenport she kept intentionally cutting in front of me literally swerving from the extreme right to the extreme left. never occurred to her she was a danger to others but then she probably thought the street belonged to her

I can't imagine the thought proess of some people completely asine

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Keeping the exit gate open on Morse and other gates in prime season makes sense.

Speeding is a problem on this Morse, Rio grande and DelMar but more disturbing is a driver intentionally going well below the speed limit. Sometimes it is done intentionally because these drivers feel compelled to attempt to control all drivers on their road.

I had a woman do that once to me when driving my cart on Davenport she kept intentionally cutting in front of me literally swerving from the extreme right to the extreme left. never occurred to her she was a danger to others but then she probably thought the street belonged to her

I can't imagine the thought proess of some people completely asine

Maybe she was drunk and it was totally innocent...

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by outlaw

Maybe she was drunk and it was totally innocent...

Boy Howdy.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Boy Howdy.

Today looks like a Boy Howdy day.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Today looks like a Boy Howdy day.

Are you feelin' it too? I thought it was PMS, and then I remembered.