[Goldwingnut]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

They are going to spend 1.38 million to fix erosion by the Morse bridge. The PWAC says the bridge is fine and the problem is erosion. "There is no problem with the bridge. There never has been. This is an erosion problem"

I guess that bumpy bridge deck is considered normal and won't be fixed?

Originally Posted by blueash

The land upon which the bridge is built is the responsibility of the PWAC because that's they way it was set up. The road is the responsibility of Sumter County not the PWAC. So your They, meaning the PWAC is not the agency to complain about if you are unhappy with the road. Even if the PWAC felt the road needed fixing, it is not within their power to fix it.

Blueash you are correct in your statements, PWAC has no power to fix the roadway on the bridge.
The bridge foundations do not rest upon this manmade island, they are set on piling in the bedrock (for lack of a better term for the underlying structure here in Florida). Even if the island were to be completely reclaimed by mother nature the bridges would still stand. The park area and roadway surface that connect the two bridge structures would however be compromised.
The island was built to all state and federal standards based on known conditions and data. Mother nature doesn't really care about manmade standards and threw a curve ball a few years ago and proved that anything man can build, she can unbuild in time.

[stan the man]

make it user tax --charge a toll, to pay for repair than never take the toll away. maybe charge Lady Lake a fee for using TV property to support their bridge.

[NotGolfer]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

Blueash you are correct in your statements, PWAC has no power to fix the roadway on the bridge.
The bridge foundations do not rest upon this manmade island, they are set on piling in the bedrock (for lack of a better term for the underlying structure here in Florida). Even if the island were to be completely reclaimed by mother nature the bridges would still stand. The park area and roadway surface that connect the two bridge structures would however be compromised.
The island was built to all state and federal standards based on known conditions and data. Mother nature doesn't really care about manmade standards and threw a curve ball a few years ago and proved that anything man can build, she can unbuild in time.

Your information and logic will fall on deaf ears of all the so-called experts. I always have appreciated your informed comments! As for the bridge/road---it was built long before the traffic and is taken care of by the county---but that was stated by another here. Also as another stated, the MMP is fine "IF" (emphasis on "IF") people adhere to the 10 mph speed. The sidewalk is that way "IF" one is walking and meets up with a cart so they can hop up on it. Personally I'd not want to walk it but that's just me. The new bridges are constructed the same way. The old one over 441/27 has no side-walk and would be dangerous (my opinion) to try to walk over.

[RonGee]

Thanks for the memory and laugh

[crash]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

That’s good to know that PWAC which paid for by residents. Being its’ the resident land now I can fish from the rip rap.

No fishing allowed in Lake Sumter.

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by crash

No fishing allowed in Lake Sumter.

Not entirely true. You can pay to go fishing on Lake Sumter.

GUIDED FISHING TOUR – Guided catch and release excursions on Lake Sumter cater to all experience levels…whether you are a seasoned sports or amateur angler, you will enjoy going after the trophy fish. This 2 hour tour will accommodate up to 4 anglers.

[jfkilduff]

And how does the County maintain the bridge is they don’t own enough land around the bridge to do so?????? Note that even the roads in your neighborhood the county owns about 10 feet or so outside the edge of pavement toward your property. Not at the Morse bridge that’s very very very ODD!!!!!!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by jfkilduff

And how does the County maintain the bridge is they don’t own enough land around the bridge to do so?????? Note that even the roads in your neighborhood the county owns about 10 feet or so outside the edge of pavement toward your property. Not at the Morse bridge that’s very very very ODD!!!!!!

Odd? How do they do it in Fort Myers?

[tvbound]

Almost $1.4 MILLION to protect the island(s?) from only wind-driven waves causing erosion, from a relatively small lake? Where do I get on the bidders list?

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Almost $1.4 MILLION to protect the island(s?) from only wind-driven waves causing erosion, from a relatively small lake? Where do I get on the bidders list?

..............and in just 14 years.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by NotGolfer

Your information and logic will fall on deaf ears of all the so-called experts. I always have appreciated your informed comments! As for the bridge/road---it was built long before the traffic and is taken care of by the county---but that was stated by another here. Also as another stated, the MMP is fine "IF" (emphasis on "IF") people adhere to the 10 mph speed. The sidewalk is that way "IF" one is walking and meets up with a cart so they can hop up on it. Personally I'd not want to walk it but that's just me. The new bridges are constructed the same way. The old one over 441/27 has no side-walk and would be dangerous (my opinion) to try to walk over.

Walking, as a general rule is very dangerous in TV. The tunnels and multi-modal trails are no “walk in the park” either.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by am.zinger@aol.com

How can the bridge be OK if it's foundation is eroding?

Not foundation it’s the bank shore of the developers pond.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

..............and in just 14 years.

Just rent you couple dump trucks to haul rip rap from the fenney quarry. Put in you’re bid and get the message sorry we have brother-in law that got the contract which he immediately sub contacted out to ——— you guessed it for less than half the contract price. You know kinda like how roofing companies do it.

[mulligan]

Originally Posted by jfkilduff

And how does the County maintain the bridge is they don’t own enough land around the bridge to do so?????? Note that even the roads in your neighborhood the county owns about 10 feet or so outside the edge of pavement toward your property. Not at the Morse bridge that’s very very very ODD!!!!!!

The county does not own that 10 feet beside the roads. The landowners do. The county only has the right to use it.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by DeanFL

perhaps the expected upcoming $3 TRILLION Federal "Infrastructure Bill" will cover the Morse Bridge reconstruction. yeah sure.

How many of these "Infrastructure Bills" have we had the last 12 years that was going to fix our bridges and highways. Seems like "shovel ready" was one slogan to sell to the tax increase. How many new bridges or highways have you heard about actually being built? All I hear is how badly neglected our infrastructure is but never how much has been fixed. Its a lot easier to point out bad examples to show a need for new taxes but it's real hard to show a new bridge or road that was never built with the past taxes.