[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by janmcn

You are correct. If you've been here anytime at all, you know the Morse's built it prior to 2000 for five million dollars and turned around in 2003 and sold it to the residents for 25 million dollars. There was no negotiating on the price. Quite an investment.

Janmcn..I have to guess by this post and others that you are negative toward the Morses. Where did you hear this information? As far as I know it is a rec center just like all other rec centers and not "sold back" to anyone. HOW did the residents buy it back????

My concern is this to anyone reading my posts. I wish anyone who legitimately wants to look into retiring here could do so. Some people are a little timid about things. When I read posts that are so inflamatory, my heart aches because I know they will turn people away. Do I work for the Morses? NO. Do I get anything out of it for myself? NO. It just burns me up that people get on here and say things that aren't true and turn someone nice away who could be enjoying it as much as we do.

AND I have to wonder what is the REAL motivation for these negative posts.

I am not having a good day and I feel that I might soon bite.

[janmcn]

Too many links to list. Just google IRS vs The Villages and read them all.

[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Janmcn..I have to guess by this post and others that you are negative toward the Morses. Where did you hear this information? As far as I know it is a rec center just like all other rec centers and not "sold back" to anyone. HOW did the residents buy it back????

My concern is this to anyone reading my posts. I wish anyone who legitimately wants to look into retiring here could do so. Some people are a little timid about things. When I read posts that are so inflamatory, my heart aches because I know they will turn people away. Do I work for the Morses? NO. Do I get anything out of it for myself? NO. It just burns me up that people get on here and say things that aren't true and turn someone nice away who could be enjoying it as much as we do.

AND I have to wonder what is the REAL motivation for these negative posts.

I am not having a good day and I feel that I might soon bite.

Gracie I haven't posted anything really negative about the morse family, but most that I have read generally make the point that they love TV, or at least the majority of it. As I wrote earlier seperating the developer from the development is the essense of the discussion. Nothing I have seen about the developers, including the IRS issue, gives me any pause to buying in TV. I have, however, read enough to be relatively certain that the morse family, of my generation at least, would not be likely the kind of folks I would click with on a personal level. It is not envy that drives me to this conclusion as I would love to have a few beers or play golf with Warren Buffett.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Janmcn..I have to guess by this post and others that you are negative toward the Morses. Where did you hear this information? As far as I know it is a rec center just like all other rec centers and not "sold back" to anyone. HOW did the residents buy it back????

My concern is this to anyone reading my posts. I wish anyone who legitimately wants to look into retiring here could do so. Some people are a little timid about things. When I read posts that are so inflamatory, my heart aches because I know they will turn people away. Do I work for the Morses? NO. Do I get anything out of it for myself? NO. It just burns me up that people get on here and say things that aren't true and turn someone nice away who could be enjoying it as much as we do.

AND I have to wonder what is the REAL motivation for these negative posts.

I am not having a good day and I feel that I might soon bite.

Gracie, you know I respect your opinion on about anything.....but you have been misinformed or not informed regarding the sale.

But, what is being said about the Savannah is true. It was sold for many more $$ than what it cost. This concept has been explained many times on this forum and other places. In a nut shell the asset is valued on its current value plus future benefit. We all can argue till the cows come home (usually late) but that is what happened right or wrong.

[graciegirl]

Thank you Bogie.

I always trust your judgement.

I am sorry Janmcn and also Weissenbach.

I stand corrected.

[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Thank you Bogie.

I always trust your judgement.

I am sorry Janmcn and also Weissenbach.

I stand corrected.

No apology necessary to me. I think you are terrific. I did not intend to take you to task, but just to point out another view.

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Thank you Bogie.

I always trust your judgement.

I am sorry Janmcn and also Weissenbach.

I stand corrected.

Apology accepted. Some people (I won't say many or most) who have lived here for decades are a little cynical concerning the Morses. I hope you never lose your enthusiasm for TV. I hope I'm around to hear what you have to say in 2018.

[The Village Girl]

Originally Posted by Larry Wilson

Sun,
Thanks for the very respectful answer. I need to be going so this is just a short answer. Many many people have lost a great deal of money on homes in here. The people who are not happy in here get bashed to death on their first post on this board so you will never hear it on here.
But I agree this is a great place, but we are comparing apples and oranges. Many of the Dell Webbs are built out and getting old. We may someday too.
Plus we are 86,000.
I had a ton of respect for Harold, less for Gary, and even less for Mark. I know the family very well and have had business dealings with them. However, you are entitled to your opinion. All opinions should be respected whether you agree or not.
Now I really must get going. We are having a big Christmas party tonight at Savannah and I should be there.
Thanks again for your very polite post.

So tell me, Larry............exactly what kinds of business dealings have you had with the Morse family, if you don't mind my asking? I'm curious - I've never connected with anyone who's had direct dealings with members of the Morse family.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Apology accepted. Some people (I won't say many or most) who have lived here for decades are a little cynical concerning the Morses. I hope you never lose your enthusiasm for TV. I hope I'm around to hear what you have to say in 2018.

What is special about 2018?

[Bill-n-Brillo]

2018 is the purported conclusion of all the construction. Perhaps that's the point the poster was inferring.

Bill

[Indy-Guy]

Would someone let me know how much money you have to have before they label you as GREEDY?

It seems to me the answer is when people make more money than the person who is calling someone greedy has.

If the Morse family about 20% into this project had gone belly-up we would not be having this conversation or even talkofthevillages and 80% of us would not be living here also people around here would be saying the Morse family should have ran their business better. I am very thankful that they were successful. I am sure that there were times when the Morse family did not think that this thing was going to fly but it did.

Profit is only a dirty word when the person you are doing business with is getting it. But when you are getting it it is a great thing.

I have a feeling that most of us worked for very profitable companies while we were working and that is what got us here.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by Indy-Guy

Would someone let me know how much money you have to have before they label you as GREEDY?

It seems to me the answer is when people make more money than the person who is calling someone greedy has.

If the Morse family about 20% into this project had gone belly-up we would not be having this conversation or even talkofthevillages and 80% of us would not be living here also people around here would be saying the Morse family should have ran their business better. I am very thankful that they were successful. I am sure that there were times when the Morse family did not think that this thing was going to fly but it did.

Profit is only a dirty word when the person you are doing business with is getting it. But when you are getting it it is a great thing.

I have a feeling that most of us worked for very profitable companies while we were working and that is what got us here.

Well said!

[jblum315]

I just picture the Morse family, especially the older ones, looking around and thinking "Wow, look what we did here!!"

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by jblum315

I just picture the Morse family, especially the older ones, looking around and thinking "Wow, look what we did here!!"

Jblum. It isn't just your art work that I love!!!!!

[Pathel]

Originally Posted by Indy-Guy

Would someone let me know how much money you have to have before they label you as GREEDY?

It seems to me the answer is when people make more money than the person who is calling someone greedy has.

If the Morse family about 20% into this project had gone belly-up we would not be having this conversation or even talkofthevillages and 80% of us would not be living here also people around here would be saying the Morse family should have ran their business better. I am very thankful that they were successful. I am sure that there were times when the Morse family did not think that this thing was going to fly but it did.

Profit is only a dirty word when the person you are doing business with is getting it. But when you are getting it it is a great thing.

I have a feeling that most of us worked for very profitable companies while we were working and that is what got us here.