[Windguy]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

It wouldn't work. I don't go there often, but you can't quit going because you may receive an "official" letter that you must respond to, such as a letter from the IRS, a jury summons, or a court order. I think people should be able to cancel their postal account, and all mail would be returned to the sender, notifying them that the recipient no longer has a Postal Service account. That would greatly reduce the junk mail problem.

I’m sorry, but I don’t understand your point. If you cancel your USPS account to get rid of junk mail, how will you still get “official” letters?

Much of the junk mail is presorted, so it requires little effort for the USPS to deliver it to you, so it helps subsidize the “official” mail. Without it, it would cost a lot more to mail a letter. If you want most of the junk mail to stop, we all need to get together and stop responding to it. Quit attending the free dinners. Quit clipping coupons out of the flyers. Businesses would stop doing it because they would not get enough business to pay for the junk mail fees.

So, it’s really our fault.

[Cassieb]

[QUOTE=KRMACK55;2000420]The postal workers get a bonus for each piece they deliver. I asked them[/QUOTE Postal employees DO NOT get a bonus for each piece they deliver.

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Have you been getting daily junk mail in your mail box lately?
It's getting so bad, it isn't worth the trip to walk down the driveway.

No I don't need earing aids
No I have enough credit cards
No I don't want/need a new car
No I don't want to sell my house

Save this crap for the snow-birds

Most of my junk mail comes either from AAA trying to sell me insurance scams of various sorts or or AARP, which I believe sells the names and addresses of members to a variety of businesses. If you buy something online from a store, there’s a good chance you will start getting their catalogs in the mail, and some of those stores also sell you out to other stores that sell similar information. After a few years without your making a purchase, they will stop sending the catalogs. Make one buy and you are back on the list. Usually these catalogs have a number in them you can call to be removed from the list.

The U.S. Post Office has raised the price for shipping bulk mail a lot in the past twenty years. It forced a lot of printers and stores out of business. We’re it not for that, you would receive a lot more junk mail.

[Bay Kid]

Recycle! Better than constant phone scam calls.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Windguy

I’m sorry, but I don’t understand your point. If you cancel your USPS account to get rid of junk mail, how will you still get “official” letters?

Much of the junk mail is presorted, so it requires little effort for the USPS to deliver it to you, so it helps subsidize the “official” mail. Without it, it would cost a lot more to mail a letter. If you want most of the junk mail to stop, we all need to get together and stop responding to it. Quit attending the free dinners. Quit clipping coupons out of the flyers. Businesses would stop doing it because they would not get enough business to pay for the junk mail fees.

So, it’s really our fault.

I agree that it is our fault that junk mail works. But, I don't agree that junk mail subsidies official mail. The cost to send junk mail is subsidized by the taxpayers. That is why all junk mail is sent using the USPS, and not by "for profit" companies, like UPS and FedEx. The junk mail cost is less then the actual cost to the USPS, so no one can compete with them.

My other point is that people should be allowed to cancel their USPS account entirely. So, if the IRS or a court sends you an "official" letter, the letter would be returned to them, stating that the person does not have a USPS account. Then, they would need to resend the letter using FedEx or UPS, which is how they should send official letters anyway, and not intermingled with junk mail. But, by the current law, if the IRS sends you a letter using the USPS, you are legally deemed to have received the letter. I know people who threw away their stimulus debt card because they thought it was junk mail.

[Footer]

We signed up for a free service with the post office that emails us a picture of the mail that will be delivered each day. If there is no good mail we don't make a trip to the mailbox.

[boblexsue]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Postal workers spend their entire career delivering tons of paper to people, 95 percent of which is worthless trash. And, they are paid more money than the people who pick up and dispose of the trash. What a system!

The " Junk Mail " actually pays for most of the employes salaries.
The P.O. is a non-profit unlike Fed Ex, UPS etc.

[boblexsue]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I agree that it is our fault that junk mail works. But, I don't agree that junk mail subsidies official mail. The cost to send junk mail is subsidized by the taxpayers. That is why all junk mail is sent using the USPS, and not by "for profit" companies, like UPS and FedEx. The junk mail cost is less then the actual cost to the USPS, so no one can compete with them.

My other point is that people should be allowed to cancel their USPS account entirely. So, if the IRS or a court sends you an "official" letter, the letter would be returned to them, stating that the person does not have a USPS account. Then, they would need to resend the letter using FedEx or UPS, which is how they should send official letters anyway, and not intermingled with junk mail. But, by the current law, if the IRS sends you a letter using the USPS, you are legally deemed to have received the letter. I know people who threw away their stimulus debt card because they thought it was junk mail.

Fed Ex etc do not want the burden of having to deliver mail to every
address in America like the PO does. Though there are many problems
with the way it is run it is still an amazing feat what they accomplish every day. What's the big deal with throwing out a few pieces of mail ? For God's sake you are retired !

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Have you been getting daily junk mail in your mail box lately?
It's getting so bad, it isn't worth the trip to walk down the driveway.

No I don't need earing aids
No I have enough credit cards
No I don't want/need a new car
No I don't want to sell my house

Save this crap for the snow-birds

I’m afraid this is going to be the norm now! My junk mail never comes home.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by boblexsue

Fed Ex etc do not want the burden of having to deliver mail to every
address in America like the PO does. Though there are many problems
with the way it is run it is still an amazing feat what they accomplish every day. What's the big deal with throwing out a few pieces of mail ? For God's sake you are retired !

So if we are retired it’s ok for people to give us extra work? They decide how I should spend my time? I usually take anything with my name on it to shred, the rest never make it home. Once in a blue moon I get something I do read. Lately I’ve been getting these threatening letters about my car, how I must extend my warranty or else! They have all the info on my car… wonder how that happened?

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Footer

We signed up for a free service with the post office that emails us a picture of the mail that will be delivered each day. If there is no good mail we don't make a trip to the mailbox.

You ever notice that about 10% of the time the email never comes? I do believe that after some number of days they stop putting new mail into the slot.

[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by fcgiii

There's a trash can less than 20 feet from the mail box.

Shhhh. Some on this board et very upset if you throw trash in the trash cans.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer

Shhhh. Some on this board et very upset if you throw trash in the trash cans.

Surely you jest?

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Surely you jest?

There was a thread on this some months ago and amazingly some people decided they were the mail police (or perhaps the trash police) and we should not throw our unwanted trash in the trash cans by the mail boxes. We are supposed to take it home and put it with our trash.

Hard to believe isnt it.

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer

Shhhh. Some on this board et very upset if you throw trash in the trash cans.

You know most of the junk mail has mailing address as RESIDENT. Sometimes I just put it in the outgoing mail & let the P.O. figure out what to do with it! May not be nice but it’s not nice for them to give you their advertisements either.